Hammer Anger:

[Pliko]

Am I trying to get too much out of the Hammer Anger?

I've been working on my release recently, and even when I do up my revs significantly, I think I might be trying for too much of a hook for what I have it set up.

I start with my right foot on the center arrow, and my left foot on the arrow to he left of that, and that is usually where I finish.

I angle out between the 1st and 2nd arrow, and then hook back in, that obviously doesnt come close to this pdf drawing of the ball.

http://www.hammerbowling.com/shelf_talkers/st_raw_hammer_anger.pdf

I can usually make the pocket from there if the lanes are med-oil, or I have to move right some if it is heavy oil. I think my problem is that I expect it to play a line like

http://www.hammerbowling.com/trade/2007shelftalker/black_widow.pdf

as I add revs, but Im thinking it really isnt made to come back that hard at the end. and I need to keep picking lines with smooth curves.

pic of ball layout

http://www.madmarsh.com/pics/scratchedBall.JPG

No weight hole.

Would a more aggressive drilling help, or should I wait until I can afford a ball with a different line like the BWS/HS/VG

Edit: I already play on taking it down to 1000 and resurfacing it, not even sure if a weight hole could just be added without having to plug and redrill.

[idlehourlegend]

Your not the only one that couldnt get this ball to move, my spare ball hooked 5 boards more than my anger did.

[Pliko]

I did buy it as a "hook in a box" but really had to work on getting it to hook starting out (also, since I only started 10 weeks ago, I had 0 ability on throwing a hook, so that took some time).

The eye opener was watching a few youtube reviews of the ball and seeing people hook it about the same as me, while getting twice the hook out of other balls they tested.

If I end up getting another heavy oil ball I will have to figure out a creative drill for this, maybe RICO, and polish for different conditions.

[idlehourlegend]

I did buy it as a "hook in a box" but really had to work on getting it to hook starting out (also, since I only started 10 weeks ago, I had 0 ability on throwing a hook, so that took some time).

The eye opener was watching a few youtube reviews of the ball and seeing people hook it about the same as me, while getting twice the hook out of other balls they tested.

If I end up getting another heavy oil ball I will have to figure out a creative drill for this, maybe RICO, and polish for different conditions.

If you want "hooki in a box" get a Virtual Gravity, thats definately the best ball out on the market bar none for heavier oil and the biggest hooking ball out there, definately a great ball honestly, and this is coming from a person that doesnt like big hooking balls.

[Pliko]

Chances are I will grab a VG next, when I can. I prefer to support my pro-shop over bringing an outside ball and getting it drilled. Unfortunately that means something like $230 from a pro-shop which I definitely can't swing.

Kinda hard to find a used VG, I think everyone loves them too much :P

My Anger is up to about 300 games as well, even with hot bathing and a resurface, at what point will the ball start to really die even with regular coverstock treatment?

[excalibur]

Twisted Fury Solid $89.99 Bowlingball.com just got mine drilled Monday for Heavy Oil and to move early. First game out of box 252 should have been at least in the 270's opened in the 10th. Very Strong ball smooth aecing ball well woth the 89.99. :D

[Lonewolf300800]

go ahead and get the ball resurfaced at 1000 Abralon, you'll notice a difference for sure. you can add a weight hole without having to plug and redrill. if you want the ball to have a little more break on the back end, have your driller put a weight hole in the thumb quadrant of your ball along your Val. if you want to know what that looks like, click on the link for my arsenal in my signature and look at my Hot Sauce and a couple of others.

[VmsTopGun]

The anger @1000 will loose too much in the back end, first hand experience ( IMO ).

What's the distance pin to pap and cg to pap?? mine's about 4x4.

That cover is a mop and reads the mid lane great.

Do you play on a long pattern?? 41ft or longer??

Try taking some speed off with same rev rate, I can over throw the lane on occasion.

[Pliko]

Yes, if I throw it slower it hooks like a monster, but I'd rather it hook better somehow at higher speeds with some sort of adjustment.

If I drop down to 13mph I can usually hook from anywhere, sometimes I will throw my spares by just dropping it on arrow 1 and letting it heat-seak the 7 pin :P

[VmsTopGun]

Yes, if I throw it slower it hooks like a monster, but I'd rather it hook better somehow at higher speeds with some sort of adjustment.

try taking it up to 4000 to generate more friction on the dry when it gets there.


If I drop down to 13mph I can usually hook from anywhere, sometimes I will throw my spares by just dropping it on arrow 1 and letting it heat-seak the 7 pin :P

you and my son,....... you're killing me:rolleyes:

[idlehourlegend]

Yes, if I throw it slower it hooks like a monster, but I'd rather it hook better somehow at higher speeds with some sort of adjustment.

If I drop down to 13mph I can usually hook from anywhere, sometimes I will throw my spares by just dropping it on arrow 1 and letting it heat-seak the 7 pin :P

Thats always a luxury, thats how I shoot my 10 pins with everything (lefty) full speed down around the 4th-5th board and just a little extra hand and I havent missed one in probably 2 years. But just remember on heavier sport and PBA patterns that wont come back.

[Pliko]

Heh, I ran into that problem with a soaking went center before, I just have to make sure I start it on a dry spot to get that action.

I feel like a goober when I toss it like that though :P not sure why.

[Pliko]

Twisted Fury Solid $89.99 Bowlingball.com just got mine drilled Monday for Heavy Oil and to move early. First game out of box 252 should have been at least in the 270's opened in the 10th. Very Strong ball smooth aecing ball well woth the 89.99. :D

I looked at the ball but they only have had 15# in or I would have considered it, though I dont like buying out of the shop if I can help.

I had the Anger resurfaced to 1000grit and will give it a shot. If that doesnt work I may try polishing it and seeing if it stores up more energy for the backend that way, and if that doesnt work I will try taking it down to 4000 grit.

Thanks for the input guys.

[TenPinSniper]

Surface is dependent on rev rate, speed and lane conditions... just because something does not work for you.

You had alot of wear on the cover, did that get removed?

If 1000 does not work I'd try some polish... like you said. Then step it up to 2000, 2000 Polished, 4000 and then 4000 Polished to get more length. 500 or 500 polished should be earlier.

[excalibur]

I looked at the ball but they only have had 15# in or I would have considered it, though I dont like buying out of the shop if I can help.

I had the Anger resurfaced to 1000grit and will give it a shot. If that doesnt work I may try polishing it and seeing if it stores up more energy for the backend that way, and if that doesnt work I will try taking it down to 4000 grit.

Thanks for the input guys.

Sorry for that atrocious spelling I just noticed, I would rather buy it in the shop also it is just a money thing right now and they can sell it a lot cheaper than the pro shop, still cheaper even after grips and drilling, but I have been buying a lot of equipment lately. My Pro-shop is having a demo day Saturday that I was invited to and they are supposed to be having some great sales that day so I may get something there. Jeff Carter and another pro I dont remember who are supposed to be there.

[J_W73]

For my Anger at 1000 I lose the ability to cover boards because it wants to get into a roll immediately.. if you want back end and to cover boards take it to 4000.. if this is a house shot it it should make a pretty big move.. mine is drilled pin at 4" to pap and cg toward pap.. with a weight hole on pap.. it would out hook and out recover my cell easily...
The cell was drilled with too strong a mb and the cover is just too strong to cover boards on the conditions I normally bowl on..
these balls aren't like urethane.. with urethane , usually the duller or more sanded the ball the more boards you could cover..
the coverstocks today are already strong and don't need a dull cover..
all a dull cover usually does is smooth out the ball and make the ball hook early, reduce backend and cover less boards

also a heavy oil ball doesn't mean covering alot of boards in heavy oil.. it is pretty much like how it shows on the anger reaction graphic you posted.. tighter , smooth arcing line.. a heavier oil ball pretty much holds the line better and doesn't allow the ball to get away to the right on you as easy..