is 300 really that big of a deal?

[Cobberz]

ok well i kinda posted about this when i just put my score from last night up in score thread. last night i put up my 3rd 800 w/ games of 265 246 289 to hit it right on the nose. now my last game i obv go front 10 make a good shot leave 9 pin. Ive done this quite few times this year, and cant seem to get over that 279/289 hump. So the question that i have is, Is shooting 300 that big of a deal? I mean i want to throw one, but its like its being pushed to the back burner because shootin 800 is a much higher goal, along w/ averaging 225+ What do you guys think? Is the 300 game a main goal to you guys still, or is it to avg higher, etc. Believe me every game i try to throw as many strikes as possible, but this post might sound weird like i dont try to shoot 300. Its just to the point of frustration i guess.

[can-ham]

First off Great shooting! I'd trade my 300 for an 800 any day...

[BubbaRay]

Congrats on the 800 series and great bowling.

Throwing a 300 game is an achievemnt we all set out to accomplish, a 300 is more common that an 800 series. With a 300 yo are consistant for one game and an 800 series you are consistant for 3 full games . Even though every time we set out on league night and try to be consistant it always doesn't work out sometimes.

I feel an 800 is a much bigger achievement than a 300 .

[idlehourlegend]

No, 300 is way over rated(on a house shot that is) with the new tech and lane conditions made for it. I go out every week and try and shoot 800, thats my main goal is to get another 800, that was a great feeling, but when I threw 300 it didnt feel like anything, in fact I think 3 people clapped about it or said congrats. I dont ever try and throw 300, in fact last time I had the front 10 I threw the 11th one with my spare ball and got 3 on purpose. This is gonna sound weird but to me, so many of them happen anymore that its not special, and its not worth filling out the papers for me.

Congrats on the 800, thats a great accomplishment.

[HammerTime7288]

As someone who has yet to shoot 300 or 800 I guess I can chime in. I definately value tossing a 300. Last season I shot 299 with my Evibe and all 12 shots were really good. I just got nervous on the last one and threw it a little slow.

I would think it should go shoot 300 then shoot 800, but if you shoot 800 first awesome. I would like to shoot 800 one day as my high is 747, but I think one thing at a time is important. We all go out there and try to shoot as high as possible and getting 12 in a row is still a big deal. When I shot 299 everyone was rooting for me and it was nice to have that kind of support. If someone shoots 4-5 300s a year then it's no biggy. But for us guys averaging 200 and busting their butt to get better, 300 is a big deal.

[can-ham]

I dont ever try and throw 300, in fact last time I had the front 10 I threw the 11th one with my spare ball and got 3 on purpose. This is gonna sound weird but to me, so many of them happen anymore that its not special, and its not worth filling out the papers for me.


Wow you must really hate paper work :eek:. Seriously if I ever saw anyone I bowl with sandbag like that I'd smack'm. Even rolling a 300 on an easy house shot is impressive, yes more common but if your that good then why not roll a 900 on the easy shot? Even with a perfect pocket hit on an easy shot there is still some elements of luck in the pin action...

[can-ham]

What I really want to do is shoot a clean 4 game series. The best part about shooting a 300, 290, or 279 is they where clean games!

[idlehourlegend]

Wow you must really hate paper work :eek:. Seriously if I ever saw anyone I bowl with sandbag like that I'd smack'm. Even rolling a 300 on an easy house shot is impressive, yes more common but if your that good then why not roll a 900 on the easy shot? Even with a perfect pocket hit on an easy shot there is still some elements of luck in the pin action...

I never said I was that good, but when I threw 300 I had no feeling of accomplishment, when I shot 800 it was a great feeling, so I dont want to shoot anymore 300's really. As for sandbagging, how is it sandbagging shooting 280's? that doesnt make any sense. I just personally treat bowling as a game anymore, I dont bowl big time leagues or mens leagues so if I lose a game and shoot 280 something, does it really matter?, No, we're just there to have fun. Besides its more my teammates fault then mine if they didnt bowl over average. If I shoot 300 great, but will it mean anything to me? No.

On Edit after reading your last post: I agree with you there, thats one of my big things, if I have 3 clean games and even shoot 660 its fine with me.

[Cobberz]

As someone who has yet to shoot 300 or 800 I guess I can chime in. I definately value tossing a 300. Last season I shot 299 with my Evibe and all 12 shots were really good. I just got nervous on the last one and threw it a little slow.

I would think it should go shoot 300 then shoot 800, but if you shoot 800 first awesome. I would like to shoot 800 one day as my high is 747, but I think one thing at a time is important. We all go out there and try to shoot as high as possible and getting 12 in a row is still a big deal. When I shot 299 everyone was rooting for me and it was nice to have that kind of support. If someone shoots 4-5 300s a year then it's no biggy. But for us guys averaging 200 and busting their butt to get better, 300 is a big deal.


i agree w/ you hammertime im not trying to sound like 300 isnt a big deal, because its still a perfect game, and not easy to do. Thats why when everyone says "you havent shot 300 yet, but have 2 (now 3) 800s how is that possible, i dont know what to tell them. Ive just been lucky enough to throw those big scores.

[Cobberz]

i agree w/ all you guys on the clean 30, if theres one thing i go out and try to do every week it is stay clean. If you stay clean then your scores will go up, and means your bowling pretty consistent if your picking up all your spares and not leaving splits. I dont think there are more than one, if one in either league i bowl in that has someone that stays clean per night.


Thanks for all the congrats guys....now its your turns to put up that magical 800:D you all got the talent to do it

[can-ham]

As for sandbagging, how is it sandbagging shooting 280's? that doesnt make any sense.

Hey Idle, dropping pins is dropping pins wheather it's 10, 2 or 50. I'm a big fan of your bowling and respect that you can throw 2 and 1 handed. I just don't want you to wast any of your potential. Sure you don't want to roll a 300, but would you be impressed by someone who rolled 2 back to back? A senior did it in our area last year. He was an amazing bowler, yes the shot was easy, but his 600 2 game score made the news (800+ series) and that was good for bowling. Please don't take this as an attack, I think you have amazing potential in the sport of bowling. I'm just hoping the next time you've got the front 10 or 11, you go for it and keep going. Wouldn't you feel like a tool if you tank your last ball of a 300, then continue to shoot a 799 series where the 2 pins you didn't go for cost you not only the 300 but the 800 series?

When I bowl I go for it on every shot!

[REDMAN]

I have been bowling for about 2 1/2 yrs and have come close to 300 more than a few times and an 800 once with a 791. I have bowled alot of series between 700 to 760. So to me 300 is just as exciting to get as an 800.Which would i rather have,obviously the 800 but it doesnt mean i wouldnt love to throw some 300's.People arent throwing them all the time at my house as its not known for the best carry.Another thing is when you get close to a 300 at my alley everybody stops bowling and comes to watch, you could hear a pin drop.I think thats part of the reason i havent gotten one yet,everthing is going good and then the enviroment changes compared to the first 9 or 10 shots and it makes me start thinking about it more.

[Cobberz]

that is the truth redman the one house i bowl in is only an 8 lane house so when u get the front 9 everyone is watching, just gotta stay in your groove and keep your rhythm even though its tough. It was easy for me last night because i was only 511 going in...when i missed my 11th ball, i was more mad i blew the 300 not even realizing that i shot 800 (i thought i shot 799) until a teammate goes u added wrong u did shoot 800. Its exciting knowing people are paying attention and rooting you on....its what makes me love this sport

[REDMAN]

Yea i think i was actually more dissapointed than happy when i shot the 791 even though it was my new high series.Does anyone elses alley gives out a gold card for free bowling for a year if you bowl a 300 or 800?

[pipes]

I see a lot more 800 series shot at the house I bowl at than 300 games ! IMHO a 300 game is harder to do having not shot either one I am sure no expert . one a the guys on my Thursday night team shot 797 a few weeks back . Thou I do think there both somthing to be proud of be it you have 1 300 game or 51 . IMHO only now blowing a 300 game to avoid paper work or some other nonsense reason is a slap to all the bowlers around you . You may have a lot of them but all of them should be special .

Remember the above is just my 2 cents if its worth that .

[Rowdy]

ok well i kinda posted about this when i just put my score from last night up in score thread. last night i put up my 3rd 800 w/ games of 265 246 289 to hit it right on the nose. now my last game i obv go front 10 make a good shot leave 9 pin. Ive done this quite few times this year, and cant seem to get over that 279/289 hump. So the question that i have is, Is shooting 300 that big of a deal? I mean i want to throw one, but its like its being pushed to the back burner because shootin 800 is a much higher goal, along w/ averaging 225+ What do you guys think? Is the 300 game a main goal to you guys still, or is it to avg higher, etc. Believe me every game i try to throw as many strikes as possible, but this post might sound weird like i dont try to shoot 300. Its just to the point of frustration i guess.

First off,congrats on the 800 series. Well done.:)

Geez,I don't know where some of y'all bowl,but around here when anyone gets near a 300 game or an 800 series everybody stops to watch. I wouldn't want to roll with people who can't get excited for a guy putting up those kind of numbers.

I've rolled both a 300 and 800 and each has their place. I'm from the school that says a 300 is more nerve wracking because you know you only get one crack at getting it right. An 800 you can be off and still get the thing.

[Dave34]

I want to bowl 300 every game in league. It never happens, but I still strive to shoot the best possible score every game. I think it's a bigger deal to shoot 800, but 300 is still the best score possible for one game.

[Lonewolf300800]

i've also bowled both a 300 game (2), and an 800 series (3) and all are special to me.

i shot an 800 series first, being an 807 with a high game of 290 on 12/2/05.

my first 300 came on 9/28/07 along with an 826 Series...still the house high series...although it has been tied once.

my second 300 came on 2/09/09 of this year and also came with an 813 series.

with the first 800 I bought the gold ring. then when i shot my second 800 and first 300 my wife bought me the gold multitop 800 ring and gold 300 ring. now that i've shot my 2nd 300 and 3rd 800, I need to update my multitop 800 ring with the new top and update my 300 ring to the new multitop. just have to wait until finances are better, probably wait until this current season is over.



congrats on your 800 series, cherish it like the accomplishment that it is. it's why most of us bowl.

[hammerbowling316]

i've got 2 300's that mean nothing to me. i've never gotten an 800 yet. Trowing an 800 is far and away more meaningful because you were on your game for the entire night not just one lucky game. when i read about 8-10 year olds doing it ,makes it feel kinda tainted. in my house there are 5-7 300 games thrown a year but only had 1 800 series shot in that last 6 years. anyone shoots a 300 game congrats but anyone who shoots an 800 series i bow to you.

[Cobberz]

rowdy does make a good point about the nerve wracking off 300...first few times this year w/ front 9 i got the knockin knees, but last night was a different story, was calm, made an ok shot and got 9. 800 all depends on what u got going in 511 going in last night just wanted to shoot 770ish, run the front 7 then get thinking ok now im chasin 800. Ive watched a few buddies be 568 and 579 going in and not shoot 800, thats cuz its the only thing on their mind.

also i was lookin at the rings, ive got both the monarch and royal in just the saladium, this one i was either looking at the royal in gold or multi top, because im not a fan of the monarch

[Rowdy]

Let's try it this way:

To get an 800 series I can average 267. Average. Means I can miss and still get it.

To get a 300 game I have to be perfect. As in not miss a single shot.

[TenPinSniper]

Cobberz congrats on the great bowling.


1. I never said I was that good, but when I threw 300 I had no feeling of accomplishment, when I shot 800 it was a great feeling, so I dont want to shoot anymore 300's really.

2. As for sandbagging, how is it sandbagging shooting 280's? that doesnt make any sense. I just personally treat bowling as a game anymore, I dont bowl big time leagues or mens leagues so if I lose a game and shoot 280 something, does it really matter?, No, we're just there to have fun.

3. Besides its more my teammates fault then mine if they didnt bowl over average. If I shoot 300 great, but will it mean anything to me? No.

On Edit after reading your last post: I agree with you there, thats one of my big things, if I have 3 clean games and even shoot 660 its fine with me.

1. You really don't want to prefect for one game or three games. You wouldn't take a 900? You got to be kidding me.

2. Sand bagginging is anytime you don't try and change to a plastic after you have rolled 8-9-10 in a row. Is Sand Bagging, period. You should try every frame, whatever happens, happens... either way alot of people would peobably be happy to see it and that should mean something to you. I always like watching people shot big games to see how they handle themselves in that situation. Don't care if I like the person or not I always congrats them on either if I get the chance.

Some people will never get the chance of rolling a 300, 800 or 900. So seeing someone is the best they'll ever get to experience. I've done any of them. Hope to get a 300 and 800. But I got my Clean 30 and it's pretty sweet. Almost got another one a few weeks back. Roll alot of series where I'm 27-29 frames clean and I'm usually pretty happy about that. Pissed I got close, but figure atleast I put my self close enought for the night so I could'nt have been that bad. No matter how pissed I get about it.

3. Really you teammates you put in the tank. Wow I'm glad your not on my team. Average is a composite of all score, it doesn't mean your gonna hit it every game. One that three count and 9 could have won it for the team.

Between my leagues here are my current averages: 193 and 207.
Game Ranges: 144-278
Series Ranges: 534-722

Do I like the fact of the 144 or 534, no, but I've been through tougher season's and slump's and bowling issues to respect the fact my season could be alot worse.

Heck I like to get my 193 up higher, but we get a Heavier House Shot with a touch of OOB for some VS the Normal House Shot, which I've seen have OOB some nights.

Honestly, Idle I think your a pretty good bowler, young anough you have a chance take a chance and see where bowling take's you in life. Where as I'm the weekend warrior... maybe I get and maybe I don't. But with a wife and kids it a risk that could be effect them and I'm not about to do that.

So I enjoy my two league's a week and coaching youth league's.

Personally, I want a video of this one handed bowling. Yes it irratate's
that you started doing it and are averaging higher than us! :D

[TenPinSniper]

Not trying to attack you by the way!

[idlehourlegend]

I understand what you all are saying, its just how I feel anymore, just starting to lose interest in bowling overall. I know I dont want to be professional with it and Im not going to go to college or anything for it. I've been in a slump for about a year now and cant seem to get out of it no matter what I do, I shoot 700's but they arent consistent, my average is down about 20 pins from where it has been(2 handed) and I just cant seem to kick it and its causing me to lose interest a lot. I think this has really changed my attitude towards the sport and I apoligize if I came off bad. I just go and have fun anymore and try to get the night overwith for my GF's sake. She loves bowling with me and I mainly do it for her, its fun for me but it just never will be the same as it was before, I use to have this killer determination when I got on the lanes and felt that I could beat anyone when I got on the approach, now I cant get that push back because I've done everything I wanted to do with bowling, just cant seem to get that determination back to put everything I have in every shot.

Basically Im feeling like Bubba did a few weeks back. The past few weeks for me have been 612, 547, 598, 598. Threw 718 one week practicing, but was something like 280-220something-2teen, but some of the shots I threw were just awful but carried. I throw 3-4 shots that are great, and then I throw 1-2 shots that are horrid, and it goes back and forth like this. Basically games that should be 230's, because of those 2 frames turn into 190's. Its really starting to wear on me, so I think thats why my attitude towards the game has changed.

Didnt mean to offend anyone with the other post. Just is a long story and I know I have a lot of work to do if I want to get back where I was.

[can-ham]

Dude have fun first and the rest will come. Taking a break isn't a bad idea either. But Don't throw any potential bowling scholarships away! If you can get free money for school cause you can knock pins down, do your self a favour ant take that shizT!

[Ray1010]

First off,congrats on the series.Ive bowled 3 300's and every time it was nothing but pure enjoyement knowing ive accomplished my goal of being perfect everytime.Although an 800 series is better and more rare i'd take a 3 anyday i get get one and i wont care what condition,equipment,or bowling atmosphere im in my feeling will still be the same.Even though my greatest feeling was when i bowled one of my 3's and in the same series when i got my first and only 8 thus far.No matter what a 300 is nothing to be laughed at,it means that you were perfect every time,and/or the bowling gods helped you out a little.

[Rowdy]

I understand what you all are saying, its just how I feel anymore, just starting to lose interest in bowling overall. I know I dont want to be professional with it and Im not going to go to college or anything for it. I've been in a slump for about a year now and cant seem to get out of it no matter what I do, I shoot 700's but they arent consistent, my average is down about 20 pins from where it has been(2 handed) and I just cant seem to kick it and its causing me to lose interest a lot. I think this has really changed my attitude towards the sport and I apoligize if I came off bad. I just go and have fun anymore and try to get the night overwith for my GF's sake. She loves bowling with me and I mainly do it for her, its fun for me but it just never will be the same as it was before, I use to have this killer determination when I got on the lanes and felt that I could beat anyone when I got on the approach, now I cant get that push back because I've done everything I wanted to do with bowling, just cant seem to get that determination back to put everything I have in every shot.

Basically Im feeling like Bubba did a few weeks back. The past few weeks for me have been 612, 547, 598, 598. Threw 718 one week practicing, but was something like 280-220something-2teen, but some of the shots I threw were just awful but carried. I throw 3-4 shots that are great, and then I throw 1-2 shots that are horrid, and it goes back and forth like this. Basically games that should be 230's, because of those 2 frames turn into 190's. Its really starting to wear on me, so I think thats why my attitude towards the game has changed.

Didnt mean to offend anyone with the other post. Just is a long story and I know I have a lot of work to do if I want to get back where I was.

Jesus man,you sound like Dale Jr. Both of you have the same problem,you done lost your swagger. At one time both of you were the baddest guys at what you are doing. Now you're not and it grates on you. You got two choices: Accept things the way they are or do something to get better. I don't think you're ready to accept things the way they are,so go get better. Don't believe the problem is between your ears,so it's either mechanics or equipment. Sounds to me like it's a combination of both. Now comes the hard part,you've got to sit down and be brutally honest with yourself. Get rid of what ain't working,even if you really like it. Pick a style,1 handed or 2. Yeah,I know you can do both. But which one is better? Concentrate on that one. Get the gear that works,even if you don't like the color of it.

Emotionally,you can't stay "up" all the time. You can't bowl every night like it's the last day of the Open. League night with the g/f is about fun,who cares what you roll??? Pick your spots to turn on the killer instinct. I roll in a Friday night team league. That is semi-serious time. Once a month I roll in a singles traveling league on Sundays. That is very serious time. My guys from friday night can't believe the change on Sunday. I walk right by them like they're not even there. I'm so focused the place could burn down and I wouldn't notice. I pick that Sunday to turn on the juice. They understand it's just the way I am. Pick your spots to get "up" and don't sweat the rest of it.

[idlehourlegend]

Jesus man,you sound like Dale Jr. Both of you have the same problem,you done lost your swagger. At one time both of you were the baddest guys at what you are doing. Now you're not and it grates on you. You got two choices: Accept things the way they are or do something to get better. I don't think you're ready to accept things the way they are,so go get better. Don't believe the problem is between your ears,so it's either mechanics or equipment. Sounds to me like it's a combination of both. Now comes the hard part,you've got to sit down and be brutally honest with yourself. Get rid of what ain't working,even if you really like it. Pick a style,1 handed or 2. Yeah,I know you can do both. But which one is better? Concentrate on that one. Get the gear that works,even if you don't like the color of it.

Emotionally,you can't stay "up" all the time. You can't bowl every night like it's the last day of the Open. League night with the g/f is about fun,who cares what you roll??? Pick your spots to turn on the killer instinct. I roll in a Friday night team league. That is semi-serious time. Once a month I roll in a singles traveling league on Sundays. That is very serious time. My guys from friday night can't believe the change on Sunday. I walk right by them like they're not even there. I'm so focused the place could burn down and I wouldn't notice. I pick that Sunday to turn on the juice. They understand it's just the way I am. Pick your spots to get "up" and don't sweat the rest of it.


Thanks for the help Rowdy, its definately mechanics and not equipment. My equipment feels great and rolls exactly how I always wanted it. Its just that my targetting and mechanics are way off, the GF even said last night after we practiced after league that I look different on every shot I throw. I just have a lot of work to do, Im definately not settling with where I am right now.

The main difference for me, is that when I use to bowl in mens leagues and competitive leagues, there was Eliminator and Brackets that made me want to bowl every game as good as I could possibly bowl, so I would win. In this league, once we're up by 80-100 pins or whatever, its like that push just goes away and I just walk up and throw the ball without really having any thought. Next week they're supposedly starting and Eliminator, so hopefully then I will get myself in gear, I've always bowled 10x better when there was money on the line.

I agree with everything your saying, I just have to keep pushing and working on it.

[idlehourlegend]

Dude have fun first and the rest will come. Taking a break isn't a bad idea either. But Don't throw any potential bowling scholarships away! If you can get free money for school cause you can knock pins down, do your self a favour ant take that shizT!

I took a break for 4 months over the summer, and it seemed to hurt more than it helped. The summer before this one I practiced around 50-60 games a week and was averaging 240 by the end of the summer, got into league and after 3 months was averaging 234, then got really sick for a few months, lost a lot of weight and muscle and havent been the same since.

Im already in college and bowling adult leagues, have been since I was 14, so was uneligible for Youth tournaments. Therefore no college scholarships.

[pipes]

Don,t do what I did !!! I quit bowling cold from 5 to 6 nights a week to 0 ...Burned out so bad I didn't look at a bowling alley or ball for 30 yrs :eek:

[Rowdy]

Im already in college and bowling adult leagues, have been since I was 14, so was uneligible for Youth tournaments. Therefore no college scholarships.

Ineligible. This may have something to do about those college offers.....:rolleyes:

[idlehourlegend]

Ineligible. This may have something to do about those college offers.....:rolleyes:

Nope, I've had college offers, I've just turned them all down. As long as its not an NCAA school, I could still get scholarships and bowl for them, just didnt want to.

[can-ham]

Nope, I've had college offers, I've just turned them all down. As long as its not an NCAA school, I could still get scholarships and bowl for them, just didnt want to.

Who is paying for your education? Idle I'm a fan, but this is less than impressive. Are you just shying away from any real pressure? After rolling the front 9, it's way easier to pick up a plastic ball and chuck a 280+ and say you don't want a 300, then it is to go for the 300 and fail. Same deal with a collage team scholarship, it's way easier to turn it down, than accept and have pressure to succeed. I'll say this I'm extremely impressed by any young athlete that uses their skills in sports to get a real education. If you could lower the financial burden on yourself or your parents through bowling, wow that would really be something. But just saying you had offers, not very impressive...

[Rowdy]

Nope, I've had college offers, I've just turned them all down. As long as its not an NCAA school, I could still get scholarships and bowl for them, just didnt want to.

What the...??? Dude,somebody offers you a ride in college,you take the freakin' deal!!! Unless you are going into a business for yourself that makes great coin,you ain't going nowhere without that sheepskin. Unless you like making minimum wage......

I didn't think it would be that big a deal back when I was 20 and had to leave the University of Florida to run the family trucking business because my Dad crunched his back. One year off turned into three and I never went back. The older I get,the more I regret that decision. I can't find crap to do,even in trucking,without that diploma. Think I want to start up another trucking company at my age??? Hell no. But it's what I'm really good at. So it's back to work,add a truck or two for 5 years and then maybe I'll be able to stay home.

[stretchmike]

i have only gotten a 270 and a 649 series as my best showing so far i would be sooo happy to get a 300 and/or an 800 series after a 700 most likely. i dont get how anyone can feel a 300 means nothing anymore!

[idlehourlegend]

Who is paying for your education? Idle I'm a fan, but this is less than impressive. Are you just shying away from any real pressure? After rolling the front 9, it's way easier to pick up a plastic ball and chuck a 280+ and say you don't want a 300, then it is to go for the 300 and fail. Same deal with a collage team scholarship, it's way easier to turn it down, than accept and have pressure to succeed. I'll say this I'm extremely impressed by any young athlete that uses their skills in sports to get a real education. If you could lower the financial burden on yourself or your parents through bowling, wow that would really be something. But just saying you had offers, not very impressive...

Ok, heres the thing. I have a GF who I've been dating for 2 years, that I want to spend the rest of my life with, and is a lot more important than throwing a bowling ball. I was not about to go to Michigan to go to college and to bowl, Im staying here with her. Sorry but that is a lot more important to me than bowling for some stupid school or getting a scholarship, having a life with her is WAY more important. I have my prioritys straight in life and wanting "pressure" in bowling isnt one of them. Yes I got the offers, many people cannot say they did, so to me is an accomplishment in itself, but the fact that I know what is more important in life, I feel is a much bigger accomplishment. Maybe not to you guys, but it is to me. I dont want a future in bowling, I did when I was younger, but I can make 100k starting at the job Im going for, cant make close to that on the PBA and I get to spend all the time I want with my family, not in 20 different cities for 6 months out of the year.

My decision, and if I had the choice I would make it the same exact way.

I am still going to college right now and doing just fine for myself. But not in Michigan.

As for pressure in bowling, there isnt any after the first 300(atleast isnt for me, no shaking or anything after I threw my first one, which I shook like crazy but was only 15), I didnt shy away and say I didnt want one, if you look I have 5 and none were special, I have 4 299's "failing" still no "fail" feeling either. Either way they were both good games, really didnt care whether I shot 295-6-7-8-9-300 ever. The only thing that mattered to me was the series.

[agroves]

300 isn't nearly as important to me as 800. I'm in a bit of an "honor score drought", having gone quite a while since shooting a 300. I averaged 230 on Tues nights last year and my high game prior to the last night of bowling was 279. My high set was 780.....

Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy the thrill of going for one, but I'd much rather have another 800. For the record, I have 5-300s(my last was 3 years ago--11/6/06) and 7-800s(my last was 3/4/09). I value the 800 much more. I've seen some very unskilled bowlers luck into a 300 game.........you don't luck into a 800 series. You have to toss the ball well for 3 games.

[can-ham]

I was not about to go to Michigan to go to college and to bowl, Im staying here with her. Sorry but that is a lot more important to me than bowling for some stupid school or getting a scholarship, having a life with her is WAY more important.

Idle good for you for having priorities and it sounds like you are on a good track with your education. I hope everything works out, and I'm sure it will. :)

I just hope you don't regret throwing the opportunity away if you ever break up with your GF. As long as you get the education your looking for that is the most importent part. Now if Michigan had a better program for what your taking and they paid for part of your education to bowl, then it might be worth making a short term sacrefice so you would be in a better position to provide for your future family down the road. The less you own in student loans, the more of the 100,000/year you can spend on new equipment! ;)

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[Cobberz]

300 isn't nearly as important to me as 800. I'm in a bit of an "honor score drought", having gone quite a while since shooting a 300. I averaged 230 on Tues nights last year and my high game prior to the last night of bowling was 279. My high set was 780.....

Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy the thrill of going for one, but I'd much rather have another 800. For the record, I have 5-300s(my last was 3 years ago--11/6/06) and 7-800s(my last was 3/4/09). I value the 800 much more. I've seen some very unskilled bowlers luck into a 300 game.........you don't luck into a 800 series. You have to toss the ball well for 3 games.


I agree with this 100% ive watched some god awful bowlers throw 300, i would still go up shake their hands and say congratulations, but i was always like wtf why cant i do that, none of these guys will ever shoot 800, and thats a club that i am a member of. got the rest of the season to work on that 300 and maybe another 800

[idlehourlegend]

Idle good for you for having priorities and it sounds like you are on a good track with your education. I hope everything works out, and I'm sure it will. :)

I just hope you don't regret throwing the opportunity away if you ever break up with your GF. As long as you get the education your looking for that is the most importent part. Now if Michigan had a better program for what your taking and they paid for part of your education to bowl, then it might be worth making a short term sacrefice so you would be in a better position to provide for your future family down the road. The less you own in student loans, the more of the 100,000/year you can spend on new equipment! ;)

I know I wont regret throwing it away, I never wanted to bowl in college. Plus Im getting the education that I want and its going to take less time because I can take accelerated courses and get done in a lot less than 4 years. As for breaking up with her, I really never see that happening, we've already been through just about all you could be through especially with a lot of stuff going on healthwise between the 2 of us (surgeries, etc.) and never has skipped a beat. Im really good friends with her parents and everything, so I really dont see any problems arising. So we'll see how everything goes, as for a short sacrifice, 4 years to me is a very long time and 4 years that I would never get back.

College bowling and me really wouldnt work out anyway, I dont get along well with coaches, I tend not to listen and figure out things on my own, its the fun part of the game to me and makes it a lot more challenging. Someone telling me every shot how to adjust etc. just wouldnt work with me and would really frustrate me. I know a few people that went to bowl at Lindenwood and Nebraska, after they got out, they quit bowling totally and were 220-230 bowlers when they left here. Its how much college bowling made them hate the sport, it made them a lot worse than they were before too.

[idlehourlegend]

300 isn't nearly as important to me as 800. I'm in a bit of an "honor score drought", having gone quite a while since shooting a 300. I averaged 230 on Tues nights last year and my high game prior to the last night of bowling was 279. My high set was 780.....

Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy the thrill of going for one, but I'd much rather have another 800. For the record, I have 5-300s(my last was 3 years ago--11/6/06) and 7-800s(my last was 3/4/09). I value the 800 much more. I've seen some very unskilled bowlers luck into a 300 game.........you don't luck into a 800 series. You have to toss the ball well for 3 games.

I too agree with this totally. There have been a lot of really terrible bowlers that had 300's at our house and the other ones, but I havent seen a really bad bowler have 800 yet.