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[navi94]

looking to add a ball so when lanes dry up have bw now looking at a blue or purple vibe any advice thanks:)

[ham_chop04]

well i just bought a ball for dry lanes if u put some hand in it i would buy the ebonite tornado i know its not a hammer but it is a great ball just bowled a 300 with it

[Street Racer]

ebonite black ice is a good dry lane ball to, but if u wanna stick with hammer, maybe go with a pure hammer or a purple vibe...

Dr Blade

[Nascar4292]

ebonite crossfire is an excellent ball......by far my fav ball even over the total NV and toxic....i would recommend that one

[Thepainscoming]

I think the best dry lane ball that i have seen is the Blue Vibe. That ball looks and works good.

[Lightning1]

Correction

Blue Vibe too strong for dry conditions

Purple Vibe much better...goes a little longer than the blue

blue just starts hooking too early on the dry...

[slap]

I would pick the blue over the purple for dry based on the reaction shape. The blue is arcing whereas the purple is skid snap.

IMHO the blue vibe is a versatile ball and it can be used for medium or dry but not both. I think you need to pick the correct drilling for the intended use.

My BV is drilled leverage (it was my only ball at the time) and I find it too strong for dry with that drilling at the box surface. However after a nice coat of polish it's workable on dry. Ideally I would like to plug it and have it drilled High RG length but for now I'll experiment with more polish.

[Street Racer]

The Blue and the Purple vibe have the same cores? correct so the reaction is basicly the same?


the blue vibe has alot more stronger coverstock then the Purple Vibe, So the Blue Vibe will react more on dryer laners because of the stronger coverstock? so its just common sense that the purple vibe is more suited for dryer lanes then the blue vibe

i havent bowled with a vibe at all, but thats how i see it?

[slap]

Yes, they have the same core but a different coverstock. The purple is slightly longer with a skid/snap reaction shape. The blue is slightly earlier with a smooth arc shape.

I don't own a purple, but I would bet they cover the same number of boards. Has anyone thrown both?

[Street Racer]

Yes, they have the same core but a different coverstock. The purple is slightly longer with a skid/snap reaction shape. The blue is slightly earlier with a smooth arc shape.



if you havent bowled with a purple vibe, how do you know that it has a skid/snap reaction? and dont all dry lanes balls have a lil skid/flip in them on dry lanes anyway?

[Lightning1]

Purple, with the weaker coverstock is about 5 to 8 feet longer before it reacts to the dry lanes...

I like my blue, but have better reaction with my BW than I do with the Vibe on drier lanes...

I am going to get a plastic ball for dry lanes and just play up the 2nd arrow....

[Street Racer]

Purple, with the weaker coverstock is about 5 to 8 feet longer before it reacts to the dry lanes...

I like my blue, but have better reaction with my BW than I do with the Vibe on drier lanes...

I am going to get a plastic ball for dry lanes and just play up the 2nd arrow....

Thank you, glad somebody agrees with me

[Thepainscoming]

Correction

Blue Vibe too strong for dry conditions

Purple Vibe much better...goes a little longer than the blue

blue just starts hooking too early on the dry...

Yeah i just learned that. Sorry. Purple Vibe better.

[slap]

if you havent bowled with a purple vibe, how do you know that it has a skid/snap reaction? and dont all dry lanes balls have a lil skid/flip in them on dry lanes anyway?

One because the max/flip coverstock is known to be S/S, Two the different reaction shapes and lengths are the accepted differences between the two.

Read these two threads...
http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=160473&ForumID=73&CategoryID=2

http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=157512&ForumID=73&CategoryID=2

Also check out legend star and compare the animated ball reactions shapes.

http://www.legend-star.com/

[slap]

Purple, with the weaker coverstock is about 5 to 8 feet longer before it reacts to the dry lanes...

I like my blue, but have better reaction with my BW than I do with the Vibe on drier lanes...

I am going to get a plastic ball for dry lanes and just play up the 2nd arrow....


Your BW hooks less on dry than your BV? How is that possible? How are the balls drilled and at what surface texture are the covers?

[slap]

I sent Hammer an inquiry and I received this email from BG...

Sammy,


The difference between the Hammer Vibes is in the coverstock. The Purple Vibe will provide more length and a more aggressive move on the backend, but it does tend to be a bit sensitive to oil. The Blue Vibe will provide earlier hook and smoother ball motion making it much less sensitive to oil and carrydown. Overall, I find the Blue Vibe to be a much more versatile bowling ball. The balls hook about the same amount, but the ball motion is very different.

If you have additional questions, please contact me.

[Lightning1]

Your BW hooks less on dry than your BV? How is that possible? How are the balls drilled and at what surface texture are the covers?

I have too strong of a layout on the Vibe, which I have problems controlling at times....especially as the lanes dry out...

The Widow was drilled for length and control, which is exactly what it's doing for me...I like to play up the second arrow out to about the 7 board and in

The Vibe's drilling forces me to cover alot more boards with minimal hand in the delivery, which throws me off....

The Vibe would be better for the dry if I got it re-drilled for more control....

Now in oil, the BW kills the Vibe.....

I have both balls OOB 4000 Abralon

I was actually thinking about polishing the Vibe to get a little more length out of it....just reads the dry too early...

[slap]

As I posted above I had a similar problem with my Vibe being too strong as my "dry ball." Polish has made it a little better so give it a try.

[Nascar4292]

i would recommend if you want a really good dry lane ball the PURE hammer it hits like a mac truck and very very very good on dry......i saw a guy bowl on bone i mean bone bone bone dry lanes with his pure hammer and stood maybe 2-5 boards off his original mark and it came flying back to the pocket. i have bowled with the blue vibe in dry lanes and it is good as well but i would say the pure hammer or cross fire personally the crossfire being 60 dollars cheaper usually and still hits very well

[slap]

since we're talking non hammers I've read the AMF orbit extreme is a great dry lane ball as well.

[Street Racer]

lol

Well no offenese but its pretty stupid drilling a dry lane ball strong? lol of course it will hook lol


Dr Blade

[navi94]

thanx guess i will polish my burgandy pure hammer and see if the bowling gods will be with me when lanes dry out

[grayfin68]

if you havent bowled with a purple vibe, how do you know that it has a skid/snap reaction? and dont all dry lanes balls have a lil skid/flip in them on dry lanes anyway?

Didn't you just say that you haven't bowled with either of the Vibes?

BTW, I own the BV and I have it drilled High RG Medium Layout with the CG lowered a little to go longer and I only use it on dry lanes.

I bowl second shift and normally break it out in the third game (sixth of the night). It works awesome at that point and I can play my normal line.

The ball works as advertised IMO from personal experience.

Also, if you look at the legend star website, it shows that the PV covers more boards than the BV.

Most of the feedback that I've heard is that both are great light oil balls. I've also heard good things about the Pure.

Another thing to remember is that every bowler has his own style and there are a lot of factors to consider. How many revs you put on the ball and your speed are major ones.

A cranker is going to be able to hook any ball off of the lanes under most circumstances where a stroker may struggle to get any ball to hook a lot in heavy oil.

[bubbiesdad]

Don't think they make them anymore but I have a Columbia Hi-Flare Urethane,
non-reactive. Shot 234 last night with it. Pro shop might have a leftover.