BW vs BWP

[hammeredinkansas]

I've read more than a few comments in here that an individual's BWP is out hooking their BW. Now is that just excitement over a new ball, or is this reality? If the latter, how can a pearl coverstock out hook the BW's reactive, if drillings, ball weight, lane conditions, etc, are the same? When league kicks off later this year, I plan on replacing my Roto-Grip RS-1 (pearl) with the BWP to use when the lanes start drying up and my BW refuses to stay right of the head pin. If the BWP truly hooks more than the BW, perhaps I need to rethink the whole thing.

Signed,
Confuzzled in Kansas

[BlackWidow95]

I think my BWP is outhooking my BWS because it is brand new. I have noticed the balls tend to hook a little more when new.

[Young300]

I've read more than a few comments in here that an individual's BWP is out hooking their BW. Now is that just excitement over a new ball, or is this reality? If the latter, how can a pearl coverstock out hook the BW's reactive, if drillings, ball weight, lane conditions, etc, are the same? When league kicks off later this year, I plan on replacing my Roto-Grip RS-1 (pearl) with the BWP to use when the lanes start drying up and my BW refuses to stay right of the head pin. If the BWP truly hooks more than the BW, perhaps I need to rethink the whole thing.

Signed,
Confuzzled in Kansas

I know what you are saying. I believe it is the fresh OOB status that they are bowling with as compared to a BWS that has many, many more games on it than the brand new BWP. Remember though, the coverstock takes really well to adjustments, and I know in the BuddiesProShop video that they ended up adjust the coverstock of the BWP and it outhooked the BWS by at least 5 boards.

I believe it's all in perception of the turning of the ball rather than the overall boards. The BWP turns the corner harder and later which tricks the mind in thinking that it outhooks the BWS when they both may move the same amount of boards throughout the entire lane.

[hammeredinkansas]

Thanks for the quick replies guys. Ideally, I want to start the night with my BW, then go to the BWP on those nights the lanes dry up in the 3rd game, w/o having to change my line too much. I realize a little movement is necessary, but I think you know what I'm getting at. Before laying out the $$ for the BWP, do you feel it'll do what I'm hoping?

[Young300]

I think that it will surpass what you are expecting. Besides, it's a Black Widow after all! :p The BWP was made to go long and make a strong move, and even on a burnt track, you will see that the BWP will make it to the correct area for the break point necessary to achieve the correct entry angle for a kick-out 10-pin. It will be the best replacement you could ever make in your arsenal.

[hammeredinkansas]

Well, I'd love to have a straight Hammer line up. :D Thanks again for your input! Lunch time is over, so back to work I go. :( Later!

[Street Racer]

Of course it will out hook it, if you have dry backends... pearls/polished hook more on dryer lanes or dryer bakcends.. etc, then sanded balls because the sanded balls cant pick up traction on dry lanes... my swtich blade out hooks my black widow... but my widow can handle more oil then my switch and then in oil my black widow will hook more then my switch blade

[Rowdy]

Drill both balls the same,start with the BW and when the BW starts showing signs of not doing what you want,move to the BWP.That's my plan,anyway.

[hammeredinkansas]

Drill both balls the same,start with the BW and when the BW starts showing signs of not doing what you want,move to the BWP.That's my plan,anyway.

That's my plan as well. I was just gettin' a little nervous reading about all this hooking. Of course, my stroker style won't cause a lot of that. I'll get the BWP on my b-day list (that's how I got my BW). Too bad it's not until December! :(

[ravenhammer]

Drill both balls the same,start with the BW and when the BW starts showing signs of not doing what you want,move to the BWP.That's my plan,anyway.

Thirded here. Although I drilled the Pearl a little "weaker" as well. Once the "newness" wares off it should work well, right now I just enjoy cranking it through the whole lane. It does out hook the solid right now, by 5 boards or so.

[hammeredinkansas]

Thirded here. Although I drilled the Pearl a little "weaker" as well. Once the "newness" wares off it should work well, right now I just enjoy cranking it through the whole lane. It does out hook the solid right now, by 5 boards or so.

Curiosity question about drilling...what gets done differently to make a ball a little weaker or stronger? I'm planning on drilling it the same way as my BW (by the way, why is it all of a sudden called BW Solid?):confused:

[dw800seeker]

I am not agreeing with you guys on this one. If you get the balls drilled the same and want to go from one to the other, I think you will be disappointed unless you make a cover change to one of the balls. The diference between Pearl Reactive and Reactive are not going to be significant in my limited experience.

I tried the identical drilling with my Black Widow and my Toxic. It was like Apples and Apples. The balls had pretty similar responses. At the beginning of the night I had to kind of choose one or the other and could not really go to one as back up to the other.

I have my Black Widow drilled for Arc (all purpose -- pin under and between fingers) and my Black Widow Pearl drilled to go longer and be more angular (pin over ring finger).

I am interested in what others are doing. For my arsenal I am going with different drillings and covers to prepare me for truly different conditions.

[slap]

Curiosity question about drilling...what gets done differently to make a ball a little weaker or stronger? I'm planning on drilling it the same way as my BW (by the way, why is it all of a sudden called BW Solid?):confused:

To differentiate it from the pearl, and well because it's a reactive solid whereas the pearl is a reactive pearl. Also the trend among ball companies is to release several balls within a line so we may see another Black Widow at some point.

Weak/Strong drill is determined by the distance between the PAP to the PIN and the PAP to MB in a strong mass bias ball.