Has anyone seen the Black Widow spare ball????

[Rowdy]

Was looking at balls on one of those internet outfits and they had a Black Widow spare ball.Pancake inside,looks just like a bws except right under the words "Black Widow" it says "Spare".Is this thing legit?

[BradM]

It's an overseas release.:(

[Rowdy]

Thanks,now......why don't WE have it here?Are you listening Hammer????

[technik]

check this out... and click on the hammer drop down arrow to find more hammer balls like No Mercy Violent, BW spare etc and drool on it..... :D
overseas have all the good looking balls.

http://www.legend-star.com/

[BradM]

I'd slap your granny for NM Violent.

[hammeredinkansas]

Silly question, but isn't the Hammer Tuff good enough? I know it's saved my BWS from many a gouge when going after 10 pins...plus my conversion percentage has gone way up since getting the Tuff. Not sure why we're pushing to get another Hammer spare ball...but then again, I've been away from the game since winter league ended.

[technik]

Silly question, but isn't the Hammer Tuff good enough? I know it's saved my BWS from many a gouge when going after 10 pins...plus my conversion percentage has gone way up since getting the Tuff. Not sure why we're pushing to get another Hammer spare ball...but then again, I've been away from the game since winter league ended.

Tuff and the BW Spare are pretty much the same core & coverstock...same polyester ball.

of course i haven't seen an actual BW spare...just by the description.

[rjw_24]

Silly question, but isn't the Hammer Tuff good enough? I know it's saved my BWS from many a gouge when going after 10 pins...plus my conversion percentage has gone way up since getting the Tuff. Not sure why we're pushing to get another Hammer spare ball...but then again, I've been away from the game since winter league ended.

Biggest reason we want another hammer spare is because the Tuff is discontinued. On another note...I want that Hammer Devil!

[technik]

I'd slap your granny for NM Violent.

LOL...just stick to your bewbies :D

you're not getting any Violins :p

hahahaha :D

[transltr]

Silly question, but isn't the Hammer Tuff good enough?

It is good enough, but it has been discontinued. I am lucky I found mine right before the 15# supply started drying up.

-Scott

[transltr]

Is the issue that you simply can't get one? Or that the cost of getting one is cost prohibitive? Or not USBC approved?

-Scott

[Rowdy]

Looks exactly like a BWS,just the extra word "spare"on it.I'd like to have it just so ALL the balls in the bag looked the same.Ain't sayin' the Tuff isn't a good ball,just don't like the look of it.Cosmetic deal.Just would be cool to pull THREE Widows out of the bag!THAT would make some people stop and look for sure!

[BradM]

LOL...just stick to your bewbies

you're not getting any Violins :p

hahahaha :D

Speaking of violins, I want a Brown Recluse series ball with a fiddle for the logo.:D

[BradM]

Looks exactly like a BWS,just the extra word "spare"on it.I'd like to have it just so ALL the balls in the bag looked the same.Ain't sayin' the Tuff isn't a good ball,just don't like the look of it.Cosmetic deal.Just would be cool to pull THREE Widows out of the bag!THAT would make some people stop and look for sure!

http://www.legend-star.com/image/b-blackwidowspare.jpg

[technik]

Speaking of violins, I want a Brown Recluse series ball with a fiddle for the logo.:D

yes you can have that plus a new BWP and BW Spare








after you sell your motor bike :D



seriously, this would make the great 3-ball arsenal:
BW
BW Pearl
BW Spare

[hammeredinkansas]

Speaking of violins, I want a Brown Recluse series ball with a fiddle for the logo.:D

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/174500/174812aFie_w.jpg

There ya go! Instead of flesh eating venom, the tag line could be, "The new Hammer Brown Recluse...it's pin eating venom can't be stopped!"

Bummer about the Tuff being discontinued. Odd that a bowling ball manufacturer dosn't have a spare ball in it's line up. Hmmmmm

[BradM]

after you sell your motor bike :D




I need to and pay off some credit cards! Damn credit card companies! You make it too easy to spend money!

[Rowdy]

Just checked.As of Feb 07 the Black Widow Spare ball IS USBC approved!Now,c'mon Hammer put the ball out here so I don't have to go to some cheesy internet site and buy one!

[SplitMaster]

well..elite bowling..who makes the pba pattern balls..cheetah...shark..etc...has spare balls...for 20 dollars...nib...a spare is a spare....and since hammer isnt bringing a spare to my game..I might go with that...20 bucks for a spare...not bad at all....the elite star...thats the name of em...if I cant find a big blue spare soon...im going with elite most likely

[bigsexyhammer]

NIB Big Blue Spare just went on Ebay a day ago for 21 bucks.

[SplitMaster]

yea...the 16 pounder?

[ravenhammer]

Just would be cool to pull THREE Widows out of the bag!
That'd make this bag useless though:
http://www.hammerbowling.com/wpimages/bw_double_tote.jpg

[Cobalt]

Yeah, before Hammer announced the BWP for release in the states, I got my hands on the approved ball list back in February. I was looking it over and saw the Black Widow... and the BW Pearl, BW Spare and BW HARV. I think I searched the internet for a good 10 hours solid looking for a site that carried them for sale :p

[IUMATRIX]

I've been informed by "The Man" himself that the international releases will not be released here in the US. The reason why those balls are on the USBC approved list is because the USBC is the governing body of bowling for the US (as recognized by the United States Olympic Committee). Thanks Slapper! So in order for the balls to be used in tournaments/leagues (overseas), they are put on the list. Don't expect these releases to hit US soil unless 1) You pay to have it shipped internationally, 2) some foreigner brings it over or 3) "The Man" changes his mind.:)

[slap]

the USBC is the governing body of bowling for the world

cough....bull shite....cough cough

What is USBC?
The United States Bowling Congress officially launched Jan. 1, 2005, as the organization to serve amateur adult and youth bowlers in the United States. It resulted from the merger of the American Bowling Congress, Women's International Bowling Congress, Young American Bowling Alliance and USA Bowling. Today, USBC serves more than three million members.

USBC is the national governing body for bowling as recognized by the United States Olympic Committee.

USBC will stand for values that include: credibility, dedication, excellence, heritage, inclusiveness, integrity, philanthropy and sportsmanship


European Tenpin Bowling Federation- runs European Bowling Tour
British Tenpin Bowling Association - official body of Tenpin bowling in the UK

And then there is also the World Tenpin Bowling Association.

the second part of your post is correct. all balls used in a World Tenpin Bowling Association event must be usbc approved.

[IUMATRIX]

Thanks Slap. I believe the question was why are certain balls on the USBC approved list but not available in the U.S.? I'm not doubting your research... good job by the way. I am aware of all those other bowling bodies you mentioned, but what does that have to with the question that was posed?

The European Bowling Tour is similar to the Professional Bowlers Association Tour, not the USBC.

The World Tenpin Bowling Association consists of the USBC, which uses the USBC's approved ball list as you and I mentioned.

The British Tenpin Association is equivalent to the USBC but correct me if I am wrong, the USBC approved ball list is also used unless the British have their own ball manufacturers?? Chances are they use US manufacturers equipment, like Hammer for example!

Is that a catball in your throat?

[Thepainscoming]

Well, just think, if you can get them, you should be able to use it. It's the same reason y a lot of the asian bowlers, can use our equipment. Sure they can get their own balls their, but some of them have our equipment and they are able to use it. But also, if any foreign bowlers come here to bowl competitively, they should be able to use it, they shouldn't have to buy new equipment.

[slap]

Thanks Slap. I believe the question was why are certain balls on the USBC approved list but not available in the U.S.? I'm not doubting your research... good job by the way. I am aware of all those other bowling bodies you mentioned, but what does that have to with the question that was posed?

Absolutely nothing. My post was a direct reply to your statement that USBC is the worldwide governing body.



The European Bowling Tour is similar to the Professional Bowlers Association Tour, not the USBC.

I did not imply that it was, but agreed.


The World Tenpin Bowling Association consists of the USBC, which uses the USBC's approved ball list as you and I mentioned.

The British Tenpin Association is equivalent to the USBC but correct me if I am wrong, the USBC approved ball list is also used unless the British have their own ball manufacturers?? Chances are they use US manufacturers equipment, like Hammer for example!

I was able to find documentation on the WTBA website not I did have much luck on the BTA site.


Is that a catball in your throat?

No that was my built in BS sensor

[Rowdy]

Raven-It might make that bag obso,but put a Joey on the handle of the toolbox roller and THEN you would have something!:D

[ravenhammer]

BW Spare and BW HARV. I think I searched the internet for a good 10 hours solid looking for a site that carried them for sale :p

Wow 10 hours thats tenacious. I still think those balls may be made overseas as well.

[ravenhammer]

Raven-It might make that bag obso,but put a Joey on the handle of the toolbox roller and THEN you would have something!:D

I dont like the toolbox at all. I would like to get the 4 ball roller and the 2 ball BW bag, but carry an Ebonite 3 ball roller, and a Vise 2 ball bag currently.

[Rowdy]

Have been told that BW spare made in good old USA!Can't understand WHY we cant have it!

[Rowdy]

Raven-I like the LOOK of the toolbox,but I wanna see one for myself first.

[ravenhammer]

Just seems too dam big.

[Rowdy]

I know.I'm afraid if I buy it all I'm gonna hear on league nite is "OW! Who put this damn box here?" Not fun at all......:(

[mudinthang]

if you want a spare ball from hammer heres what u do.

BUY A HAMMER FROM WALMART
THROW IT AT THE PINS

[Thepainscoming]

if you want a spare ball from hammer heres what u do.

BUY A HAMMER FROM WALMART
THROW IT AT THE PINS

lol, but i know of a site that has Tuff's in stock and in all weights.

[ravenhammer]

I wouldn't buy a bowling ball or a tool from Wallyworld.

[tjb0621]

Isn't the "Tuff" discontinued? Can they still be found any where? Would like to get one. Don't have a spare ball at this time. Any other suggestions. Need a 15# ball

[Thepainscoming]

Isn't the "Tuff" discontinued? Can they still be found any where? Would like to get one. Don't have a spare ball at this time. Any other suggestions. Need a 15# ball
I have a secret site where i can get one

[James]

I have a secret site where i can get one

and where might this be? help a fellow hammerhead out!!:D please!:D

[MessiahsHammer]

and where might this be? help a fellow hammerhead out!!:D please!:D

http://www.bowlersdream.com/hammer.html There you go my fellow hammerhead... I havent bought from these guys for a while might wanna call them before make sure they are still around but had a good experiance with them a couple years back...

[ravenhammer]

I sent them an email we'll see......

[Thepainscoming]

http://www.bowlersdream.com/hammer.html There you go my fellow hammerhead... I havent bought from these guys for a while might wanna call them before make sure they are still around but had a good experiance with them a couple years back...yup that's the site. They should have the 15 and 16 pounds in stock because other balls, only have select weights in stock.

[Bama Vol]

Gentlemen, I have been in touch with a regional distributor of Hammer. He has assured me on two different occassions that the BW spare will be released in a "few" weeks. I e-mailed him back just to confirm we were talking the BWS and not the BWP. He answered in the affimative. The only question is the definition of "few". :rolleyes: Also, I have seen a picture of it on one of the net stores, but I can't remember which one. It did not give any specifications, just a pic.

[Thepainscoming]

Gentlemen, I have been in touch with a regional distributor of Hammer. He has assured me on two different occassions that the BW spare will be released in a "few" weeks. I e-mailed him back just to confirm we were talking the BWS and not the BWP. He answered in the affimative. The only question is the definition of "few". :rolleyes: Also, I have seen a picture of it on one of the net stores, but I can't remember which one. It did not give any specifications, just a pic.

Bowlers Dream was the site probably.

[James]

http://www.bowlersdream.com/hammer.html There you go my fellow hammerhead... I havent bought from these guys for a while might wanna call them before make sure they are still around but had a good experiance with them a couple years back...

lol thanks