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jrkilla
07-20-2007, 06:19 PM
Whats up everybody? I am a new member and I am thinking about switching to hammer for my new arsenal. I wanted to ask everybody if they have any advice on what equipment is best for sport bowling and pba oil patterns. I would appreciate any advice. I am a 220 average bowler and have recently just bowled my first regional. I am very dedicated to the sport of bowling. Any advice would be great.
Thanks everybody,
JrKilla
bluerrpilot
07-20-2007, 06:41 PM
How big an arsenal do you want? There are so many good balls out right now. The first 4 that I would chose are a BW solid, Anger, Toxic and Cherry Vibe. With that combo and changes to the surface prep, they can handle alot of different patterns.
By the way, where are you located. Did you bowl the regional in Sun City? I live in Avondale
Crusher279757
07-20-2007, 06:48 PM
If your looking for something like a 6 ball arsenal I would go with something like this:
No Mercy Beat'n - comes out July 23rd
Raw Hammer Anger
Black Widow
Black Widow Pearl
Raw Hammer Doom
Cherry, Blue, or Purple Vibe
Then a spare ball
That's six not including the spare ball.
MessiahsHammer
07-20-2007, 07:01 PM
Whats up everybody? I am a new member and I am thinking about switching to hammer for my new arsenal. I wanted to ask everybody if they have any advice on what equipment is best for sport bowling and pba oil patterns. I would appreciate any advice. I am a 220 average bowler and have recently just bowled my first regional. I am very dedicated to the sport of bowling. Any advice would be great.
Thanks everybody,
JrKilla
Well since you are at an ave like that I would have to give you 2 you should start with then 2 more to build up to... as I think 6 is to much right out of the box...
No Mercy or Black Widow
Raw Anger
then
Raw Doom or Toxic
Black Widow Pearl
that should cover you for most patterns you will come across... But since your looking for something to work well with sport or pba patterns the Raw Anger is a ball you should look at first...
SplitMaster
07-20-2007, 07:12 PM
Everyone has their own idea of what they should have..which I respect..to me...the perfect hammer arsenal...for me at least...is
Anger- heavy
Road Hawg-med heav
BWP-med
Doom-med light
Vibe-light
now you could take a couple away and work with surface prep to cover this or that..but this is only one guys opinion
NeoWidow18
07-20-2007, 09:19 PM
Well imo I for a starting anesal I would go with my summer line up.
Raw Hammer Anger
Hammer Black Widow Solid (surface prep sanded down to around 1000 to go strigher) or just get the BWP
Hammer Cherry Vibe
Spare Ball
That should get you started. Then you can and or remove a few. Hope this helps some.
steveo#3
07-20-2007, 10:18 PM
also remember , while Hammer makes an excellent ball, you don't need all Hammer equipment..a 220 average, your current companies are doin somethin for ya there...but I understand wanting to have a matching ball selection...my OCD has me buy the matching towel for my balls...from my Cuda/c towel to my Hammer towel(can't find a Black Widow towel)
grayfin68
07-20-2007, 10:55 PM
If your looking for something like a 6 ball arsenal I would go with something like this:
No Mercy Beat'n - comes out July 23rd
Raw Hammer Anger
Black Widow
Black Widow Pearl
Raw Hammer Doom
Cherry, Blue, or Purple Vibe
Then a spare ball
That's six not including the spare ball.
I'm not sure how you can recommend the Beat'n. The ball isn't even on the market yet. How do you recommend stuff you haven't used anyway?
TenPinSniper
07-21-2007, 12:11 AM
I'm not sure how you can recommend the Beat'n. The ball isn't even on the market yet. How do you recommend stuff you haven't used anyway?
Think about it... how many bad bowling ball have you ever owned. To me bad bowling are ones that don't fit you style, even after you adjusted the surface.
If someone is bolwing regionals they sure as heck ought to have atleast two strong solid hand positions with some tilt options for each. Plus be comfortable with several different areas on the lane.
Grayfin68 you do have a point..
JRKilla- What balls do you own right now? Is there any of the PBA patterns you'd like to address with these new balls?
What is you ball speed, rev rate, axis tilt and style.
Young300
07-21-2007, 12:15 AM
I'm not sure how you can recommend the Beat'n. The ball isn't even on the market yet. How do you recommend stuff you haven't used anyway?
The only difference is the coverstock, otherwise it is a familiar product with just a different name. It's the Black Widow cover around the No Mercy core. Not that much different, and with the Black Widow cover, it's going to be a versatile coverstock for different preps and whatnot.
TenPinSniper
07-21-2007, 12:28 AM
The only difference is the coverstock, otherwise it is a familiar product with just a different name. It's the Black Widow cover around the No Mercy core. Not that much different, and with the Black Widow cover, it's going to be a versatile coverstock for different preps and whatnot.
Actually they have different coverstocks...
Voilent Reactive
Violent Hook Reative
The NMB should be much stronger... atleast that my guess.
grayfin68
07-21-2007, 09:22 AM
The only difference is the coverstock, otherwise it is a familiar product with just a different name. It's the Black Widow cover around the No Mercy core. Not that much different, and with the Black Widow cover, it's going to be a versatile coverstock for different preps and whatnot.
I understand that, but any time you make a new bowling ball, it's not totally predictable as to how it will work. Sometimes balls work differently than drawn up on paper. My point is why wouldn't you wait until a ball has been on the market and tested before recommending it.
Obviously, you would recommend enough balls to cover each lane condition if the guy wants to use his equipment as the deciding factor in how to deal with lane conditions.
He could go with as few as 2 or 3 balls or as many as 6 or 8. He could even have multiples of the same ball with different layouts and surface preps.
Actually they have different coverstocks...
Voilent Reactive
Violent Hook Reative
The NMB should be much stronger... atleast that my guess.
The core has been modified as well.
Young300
07-22-2007, 12:39 AM
Actually they have different coverstocks...
Voilent Reactive
Violent Hook Reative
The NMB should be much stronger... atleast that my guess.
I was speaking with Billy Oatman at Junior Gold Nationals and he said that the NMB has the Black Widow cover with the NM core. I think that is a reliable source. If you look at the .pdf's, they don't too different themselves; the NMB and BWS.
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