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Sin City Hammer
08-14-2007, 04:19 PM
Since the retirement of the Tuff (and I never had a shot at getting one), what is next in-line for a Hammer spare ball? I hope it could be something along the lines of the everclear with a black widow in it :D . That would be so cool, and go great with the black widows.

BradM
08-14-2007, 04:30 PM
I heard they're going to buy a bunch of house balls and have them resurfaced. You'll have to send conventional specs in and they try to match you up as best they can. That way they won't have to fill the balls and you won't have to get them drilled.


This is a joke btw.

bluerrpilot
08-14-2007, 05:52 PM
I would be very happy if they would bring back the Big Blue Spare. The clear ones just look like s##t after a while.

Street Racer
08-14-2007, 06:00 PM
when i e-mailed about a spare ball... they said one is in the making... but not due for another couple of months at least... and there was nothing said about a black widow spare..

grayfin68
08-14-2007, 07:13 PM
when i e-mailed about a spare ball... they said one is in the making... but not due for another couple of months at least... and there was nothing said about a black widow spare..

I hope they don't tie it into a product certain line. I'd rather have it be simply a Hammer spare ball like the Tuff.

TenPinSniper
08-14-2007, 09:41 PM
I hope they don't tie it into a product certain line. I'd rather have it be simply a Hammer spare ball like the Tuff.

First Hope:
Personally, I want a Spare No Mercy!!!!
If not that,
Anything other than a Black Widow Spare (Do not want one). Maybe some thing like Hammer "Time"....

We all have our wishes... I'd consider a Hammer Ball... Just don't stamp the Black Widow Logo on mine, or make it clear.

This is just my preference, here folks.

Rowdy
08-14-2007, 09:44 PM
Too bad. There's already a Black Widow spare ball. It was an overseas release but you can get them off the Net. And it's already USBC approved for play here.

Rowdy
08-14-2007, 09:45 PM
We went all through this on an earlier thread..........

Sin City Hammer
08-14-2007, 11:21 PM
We went all through this on an earlier thread..........

Well, at least I beat another noob to it this time. :D

grayfin68
08-15-2007, 05:50 AM
We went all through this on an earlier thread..........

So what Rowdy? Why don't you practice a little concept called tolerance. It's a message board. There are going to be repeat topics. Just because you've been here forever and seen these topics before doesn't mean everyone has to go and catch up on years worth of threads.

Get over it please. Your posts like this add nothing positive to the forums.... just more inane whining on your part.

bigsexyhammer
08-15-2007, 08:35 AM
Just because you've been here forever and seen these topics before doesn't mean everyone has to go and catch up on years worth of threads.

Know what's funny Gray? You have been a member here a full 6 months longer than ol' Rowdy.:D

grayfin68
08-15-2007, 10:07 AM
Know what's funny Gray? You have been a member here a full 6 months longer than ol' Rowdy.:D

LOL, that's interesting. It seems like Rowdy's been here forever with his broken record of insulting posts and intolerance towards people in general and especially new posters.

It's one thing if someone comes on here and starts making an endless number of threads about the same thing, like the guy asking to sell his Blue Vibe, but to expect everyone to search out every thread just to see if what's on his mind has been posted before is too much to ask IMO.

TenPinSniper
08-15-2007, 01:05 PM
LOL, that's interesting. It seems like Rowdy's been here forever with his broken record of insulting posts and intolerance towards people in general and especially new posters.

It's one thing if someone comes on here and starts making an endless number of threads about the same thing, like the guy asking to sell his Blue Vibe, but to expect everyone to search out every thread just to see if what's on his mind has been posted before is too much to ask IMO.

Hey dont talk about our record holder like that!
-add fastest to 1k post...
Will say this, the search tool is awesome, especially the advanced search... You can search everytime... say Josh, posted the dirt bike kid... or really anything, posted by any of us. Check it out... or not.

Bama Vol
08-15-2007, 01:51 PM
Speaking of tolerance, why doesn't everyone use it? Who give a flip if a topic has been discussed one, two, three or more other times? :rolleyes: Now, to an important question. Rowdy, where in world are these places on ebay that have the BWS for sale? How about sharing some of them with us? By the way Rowdy, we Southerners are suppossed to be genteel (sp?) and tolerate of those who started the War of Agression in 1860.

BradM
08-15-2007, 01:54 PM
Hey dont talk about our record holder like that!
-add fastest to 1k post...

It's really easy to get there when you double post constantly rather than editing the post just made.

grayfin68
08-15-2007, 05:15 PM
Hey dont talk about our record holder like that!
-add fastest to 1k post...
Will say this, the search tool is awesome, especially the advanced search... You can search everytime... say Josh, posted the dirt bike kid... or really anything, posted by any of us. Check it out... or not.

I'm not saying anything bad about the search tool. However, if someone thinks they have a new idea, they don't need to run it by the search engine if they don't want to. I don't recall reading it in the rules of the board. I'd rather have someone do that than listen to some old grumpy bastard complain about petty issues.

TenPinSniper
08-15-2007, 05:22 PM
I'm not saying anything bad about the search tool. However, if someone thinks they have a new idea, they don't need to run it by the search engine if they don't want to. I don't recall reading it in the rules of the board. I'd rather have someone do that than listen to some old grumpy bastard complain about petty issues.

Never said it was a rule...

Hey dont talk about our record holder like that!
-add fastest to 1k post...
Will say this, the search tool is awesome, especially the advanced search... You can search everytime... say Josh, posted the dirt bike kid... or really anything, posted by any of us. Check it out... or not.

Just said it works well... By the way the record holder deal was meant to be very sarcastic. Trust me, I dont want to hear complaining about repost... I've never complained about the search function not being used.... some forums do however try to restrict repost... server space.

This is forum belong to who, thats right none of us.

can-ham
08-15-2007, 05:33 PM
This is forum belong to who, thats right none of us.

Yeah but it sure would be boring with out all of us (well most of us)...

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/misconceps/images/misconceptions_beavers.gif

TenPinSniper
08-15-2007, 05:37 PM
Yeah but it sure would be boring with out all of us (well most of us)...

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/misconceps/images/misconceptions_beavers.gif
Agreed and the funny pictures too.

grayfin68
08-15-2007, 05:48 PM
Never said it was a rule...

Just said it works well... By the way the record holder deal was meant to be very sarcastic. Trust me, I dont want to hear complaining about repost... I've never complained about the search function not being used.... some forums do however try to restrict repost... server space.

This is forum belong to who, thats right none of us.

I was referring to Rowdy, who mercilessly bashes people for things like making new threads that already exist instead of being polite (or at least tolerant) about it.

Also, the moderators have the capability to combine threads. Maybe that is an option.

As far as who the forum belongs to, you're right, it belongs to Hammer, however, the forum is nothing without the posters who support it.

Sin City Hammer
08-15-2007, 06:48 PM
Speaking of tolerance, why doesn't everyone use it? Who give a flip if a topic has been discussed one, two, three or more other times? :rolleyes: Now, to an important question. Rowdy, where in world are these places on ebay that have the BWS for sale? How about sharing some of them with us? By the way Rowdy, we Southerners are suppossed to be genteel (sp?) and tolerate of those who started the War of Agression in 1860.

(Although I'm not Rowdy)

There are a bunch of places on ebay that sells a BWS, and some for a decent price. Just do a search for it, and you'll get like 2 pages or so on both black widows.

Not all southerners are genteel (yes, you had the correct spelling), just depends on the upbringing.

Rowdy
08-15-2007, 07:23 PM
If you want a Black Widow Spare,they ain't on ebay. They're on a couple of those ball.com outfits. Brand new,never been drilled. You guys know I don't buy used bowling balls,EVER! If I remember right,they were about $145.

Rowdy
08-15-2007, 07:25 PM
Much as some of you won't want to hear this,there's a thread where I found the ball and listed the website and price. Go back and find it.

Rowdy
08-15-2007, 07:47 PM
I was brought up to cut people some slack. But if they keep on doing the same stupid shit,time after time, kick 'em to the curb and get on with the job at hand. Ugly is only skin deep,but stupid goes all the way to the bone. The way I go about my life is very simple. I will show someone the correct way first,If they screw it up,I'll gently correct them. If they do it a second time,I'll be more forceful to get their attention and fix the problem. If they insist on doing it a third time,they're just dumb as a fence post,move 'em outta the way,leave 'em behind and get on with it. As my old grand dad said,"Son it don't matter if you make mistakes,but don't keep making the same one over and over". Now think hard. How many people on here keep putting up the same crap,over and over. Oh,they may tweak the third question so it appears to be different,but when you really find out what answers they want to get,it's the same shit as the first two. Same with their answers to someone else's question. You see the name and pretty much know what these guys are gonna write for an answer.Remember,there's two types of guys at the lanes.One group can only roll the ball down the lane and HOPE for something to happen.And when it's bad,it's the balls fault,not theirs.They only can throw one line and speed,so they have to change the ball to fit that line. Scores are low,here. Then there's the other group. They are very small in number. When they roll a ball,they watch every little thing that ball does.They can make speed,line and axis tilt adjustments at any time to keep on striking. The first group just goes bowling. The second group are BOWLERS. I KNOW which group I'm in,where do YOU fit in?

TenPinSniper
08-15-2007, 08:42 PM
I was referring to Rowdy, who mercilessly bashes people for things like making new threads that already exist instead of being polite (or at least tolerant) about it.

Also, the moderators have the capability to combine threads. Maybe that is an option.

As far as who the forum belongs to, you're right, it belongs to Hammer, however, the forum is nothing without the posters who support it.

Agreed, with everything...

The good thing about multiple threads, is various answers... we get smarter, etc.

Rowdy
08-15-2007, 08:53 PM
Just something that's been on my mind for awhile.....can any of you actually post something without using those "Quote" boxes? It takes you guys 5 or 6 posts before anything new is said. Kind of like watching a soap opera. Tune in on Friday and they're still saying the same garbage that was on there Monday. Maybe we could have one thread where the use of those boxes is okay,but lose them everywhere else. They make going back to do research almost impossible.

Thepainscoming
08-15-2007, 09:20 PM
We could do that rowdy, if u could do one thing, just post once, not 3 times right after each other, please, o that would be great,

Sin City Hammer
08-15-2007, 09:37 PM
A few things:

I won't join in the "Rowdy bashing" that seems to be going on, everyone has a opinion and is free to do so thanks to the great country called America, either ignore that opinion/debate that opinion/or agree to disagree with it.

Go to any site (bowling or otherwise) and you eventually have some of the people who have been around a while get upset because the new people don't read the the past pages to find the answers before they post. And honestly, why should they? How else are people going to raise their post count (if that matters to them) if repeat threads aren't made.

I come to this site because I am a HammerHead, and to be around other HammerHeads and even possibly learn from them as well, and hopefully in time meet up with some of them.

I use the quotes to let the person that I'm quoting know I am responding to them, and not have someone else think I'm talking about them, since sometimes issues happen because thinks your talking about them instead.

If I want drama, I'll watch Charmed.

I let some of the crap from before on this site get to me, and left the site for 8 months because of it. Otherwise I would have a higher post count if I was so concerned with being in the 1000's along with the others that started around the same time that I joined. And I won't let that happen to me once again.

I made this thread because I wanted a Hammer spare ball instead of my skull ball, and because I can't find the tuff anywhere I made the thread to find out how much longer it might be until one came out, and possibly find out the name of it ahead of time.

Now hopefully, we can somehow end all the drama going on lately, and once again go back to how it once was before it started.

Rowdy
08-15-2007, 09:40 PM
Would like to help you out on that one but sometimes I forget to put something in the first answer and don't want someone to go off without ALL the info they asked for. Fair enough,right? Second,if you noticed the answers,i was responding to two different people. Manners dictate that you respond to each person individually. Or do you have something against manners,too? Third,when there are multiple people responding to a post,I cannot help the order in which they appear. If this was my website,things would be a lot different,but it's not,so deal with things the way they are. By the way,life must be pretty good for you if all you have to worry about is how or how many times I post. I would think that you have better things to do with your time.

Thepainscoming
08-15-2007, 09:53 PM
Well then cant u go back and edit the one post, and i dont care about how much u post.

Rowdy
08-15-2007, 10:24 PM
Uh-oh.Pain is gonna have a fit. Two posts in a row.Oh well. "Rowdy bashing?" Oh my God,I love it! Lemme see,I'm on my third wife,over 40 g/f's,played baseball for 12 years and have golfed and bowled for 40 plus years. Do you think there's ANYTHING you can say to me that will cause me to lose any sleep over it? Go ahead,give it your best shot. All it does is make me laugh and keeps me mentally tough for those 10th frames when I have to strike out to win. Unlike a lot of you,I haven't mastered the art of talking out of both sides of my mouth at the same time. I'll always give it to you straight up. I only do honest. So I NEVER have a problem looking at myself in the mirror in the morning! A bunch of people here can't say that,either. You know who you are. Usually the ones with the thinnest skin. I've always gone out of my way to give help to anyone who's asked for it without being an asshole. My bag is always open to anyone who needs anything. Tape,EZ slide,rosin,whatever. A guy came to me in Spring League and asked me to watch him bowl. One small piece of tape later and he's rolling 40 pins over his average. He went from wanting to quit to rolling the best season of his life! THAT'S what makes bowling fun. How many of you are having FUN every week? My teams do,every week. We high five the OTHER team when they have a great shot! Do you? So,you wanna "bash" me? Have at it. Won't bother me one little bit and will show you for the small minded asshole that you really are.

Rowdy
08-15-2007, 10:27 PM
Beg Pardon,Pain. But back at 8:20 you DID care about how much I post. Make up your mind,son. You can't have it both ways.

JoshWithrow
08-15-2007, 10:51 PM
Rowdy... chill. Seriously, throw the temper tantrums elsewhere. Its getting old to see one, and only one, person continually bringing down the quality of the forums with garbage posts.

I hate to say it, but I've added you to my ignore list. When you decide that it's time to grow up and stop trying to be the king/police of the internets maybe I'll be able to change this decision.

grayfin68
08-16-2007, 05:22 AM
Just something that's been on my mind for awhile.....can any of you actually post something without using those "Quote" boxes? It takes you guys 5 or 6 posts before anything new is said. Kind of like watching a soap opera. Tune in on Friday and they're still saying the same garbage that was on there Monday. Maybe we could have one thread where the use of those boxes is okay,but lose them everywhere else. They make going back to do research almost impossible.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I use the boxes so people reading the thread know what I am responding to.

grayfin68
08-16-2007, 05:23 AM
I was brought up to cut people some slack. But if they keep on doing the same stupid shit,time after time, kick 'em to the curb and get on with the job at hand. Ugly is only skin deep,but stupid goes all the way to the bone. The way I go about my life is very simple. I will show someone the correct way first,If they screw it up,I'll gently correct them. If they do it a second time,I'll be more forceful to get their attention and fix the problem. If they insist on doing it a third time,they're just dumb as a fence post,move 'em outta the way,leave 'em behind and get on with it. As my old grand dad said,"Son it don't matter if you make mistakes,but don't keep making the same one over and over". Now think hard. How many people on here keep putting up the same crap,over and over. Oh,they may tweak the third question so it appears to be different,but when you really find out what answers they want to get,it's the same shit as the first two. Same with their answers to someone else's question. You see the name and pretty much know what these guys are gonna write for an answer.Remember,there's two types of guys at the lanes.One group can only roll the ball down the lane and HOPE for something to happen.And when it's bad,it's the balls fault,not theirs.They only can throw one line and speed,so they have to change the ball to fit that line. Scores are low,here. Then there's the other group. They are very small in number. When they roll a ball,they watch every little thing that ball does.They can make speed,line and axis tilt adjustments at any time to keep on striking. The first group just goes bowling. The second group are BOWLERS. I KNOW which group I'm in,where do YOU fit in?

Nobody asked you to be the stupid police of the board. In that case, you'd have locked yourself up and thrown away the key long ago.

JoshWithrow
08-16-2007, 09:49 AM
:eek:

ouch... that had to burn...

tjb0621
08-16-2007, 10:08 AM
I got mine from www.bowlersdream.com . You may want to check them out have only had mine for about three weeks. Even looks "Tuff" going down the boards after those spares!:D

Thepainscoming
08-16-2007, 10:16 AM
Hey Rowdy, I help other people, i have fun every week, i hi-five the other team too.

BradM
08-16-2007, 10:17 AM
I can't speak for anyone else, but I use the boxes so people reading the thread know what I am responding to.


Exactly.

Rowdy, I think I'm going to let you slide on the triple posts and things like that because I just figured out why you do it. You don't know how to go back and edit them to add your thoughts.

As for the quote boxes, you would benefit from using them.

With you getting this angry after only being here a very short time, I'm confident that you won't be here much longer. You'll either get tired of posting "Use the search function" or you'll be banned. Personally I'm hoping for option #2. The sad part is I'm betting even the moderator spends less time on here than used to so that he doesn't have to read this b.s.

You create your own drama. It's true so don't even try to defend that statement. I don't think you intend to but, emotion is very hard to capture on the internet. People don't know what kind of inflection is in your voice when your typing. The way you type comes off very abrasive even if you don't mean it that way. I don't know how to fix that.

Good luck.

BigDog
08-16-2007, 10:31 AM
Hey Rowdy, I help other people, i have fun every week, i hi-five the other team too.

I think they call that good sportsmanship. That's what I've always liked about the sport.

It's too bad everyone doesn't feel that way about it...:(

Sin City Hammer
08-16-2007, 10:48 AM
Hey Rowdy, I help other people, i have fun every week, i hi-five the other team too.

That's what I like to do a well, seems there's alot of characters in this league, and some of the most helpful friendly people as well. For example, there's this one lady that does this little bunny hop for her last step, that makes everyone laugh. And on her team is her bestfriend and whenever she gets a strike, she brings out the guns for a 21 gun salute which is just classic.

My favorite though, is this one guy that after he throws the ball, does a little kick with his right foot behind his left leg, then starts dance like he's fred astaire. And you can't help but roll on the floor when he does it.

I hi-five people for every spare/strike/and even on the hard spare attemps that they miss because some people actually try to pick it up instead of playing it save.

All these people even signed my g/f's cast even though she's not in the league, but they know her because of me and I got her involved becasue she's depressed she can't bowl yet and might even miss the winter league as well.

And every day, she has to walk by her brand new equipment that she can't wait to use.

EIGHTBALL033
08-16-2007, 10:56 AM
A few things:

I won't join in the "Rowdy bashing" that seems to be going on, everyone has a opinion and is free to do so thanks to the great country called America, either ignore that opinion/debate that opinion/or agree to disagree with it.

Go to any site (bowling or otherwise) and you eventually have some of the people who have been around a while get upset because the new people don't read the the past pages to find the answers before they post. And honestly, why should they? How else are people going to raise their post count (if that matters to them) if repeat threads aren't made.

I come to this site because I am a HammerHead, and to be around other HammerHeads and even possibly learn from them as well, and hopefully in time meet up with some of them.

I use the quotes to let the person that I'm quoting know I am responding to them, and not have someone else think I'm talking about them, since sometimes issues happen because thinks your talking about them instead.

If I want drama, I'll watch Charmed.

I let some of the crap from before on this site get to me, and left the site for 8 months because of it. Otherwise I would have a higher post count if I was so concerned with being in the 1000's along with the others that started around the same time that I joined. And I won't let that happen to me once again.

I made this thread because I wanted a Hammer spare ball instead of my skull ball, and because I can't find the tuff anywhere I made the thread to find out how much longer it might be until one came out, and possibly find out the name of it ahead of time.

Now hopefully, we can somehow end all the drama going on lately, and once again go back to how it once was before it started.

LOT OF DRAMA FROM ROWDY,SERIOUS HEAD CASE:confused:

can-ham
08-16-2007, 11:12 AM
LOT OF DRAMA FROM ROWDY,SERIOUS HEAD CASE:confused:

Life is pretty sweet with Rowdy on the ignore list. Now if I could just convince people to stop quoting his drama...


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JoshWithrow
08-16-2007, 11:34 AM
Now if I could just convince people to stop quoting his drama...

Quoted for the MotherFrikkin Truth

Rowdy
08-16-2007, 10:53 PM
I had sorta overlooked a post by BamaVol,but danged if he ain't right. Those of you who cry and whine the loudest ARE Yankees! Wonder why that is? There's a government grant in there somewhere. Brad my boy,neither is gonna happen. You don't like it,don't read it. Like I said before,fire away,all it makes me do is laugh at how childish y'all are. The one thing that puzzles me is where did this "drama" stuff come from? Is this how you amuse yourself up north? Do you guys piss and moan like this when you bowl? All the tears on the approach explains the low scores up there! And I thought it was the sport patterns. Call your local USDA office and find out when they're having a free cheese day so you'll have something to go with your whine. But please,feel free to continue with your "drama" so I can start my day off with a good laugh! Oh,almost forgot. I have a bunch of guys around here who aren't members,but they read all the stuff you guys are writing and they're getting as big a kick out of your stuff as I am. And as far as a post count,I could care less how many posts I have. Some of you sure are hung up about that.Why? Do I get a toaster oven or something after so many posts? All this bitchin' from y'all,but my PM box is overflowing with guys wanting me to find stuff for them or give advice. They won't put it on a thread because they don't want some of you going off and trashing the thread. They just want the straight scoop without YOUR "drama". Strange,isn't it? But keep the hate mail coming in,it's really funny!:D

slap
08-17-2007, 07:01 AM
Easy with that Yankee talk Rowdy, don't make us march down there again. :D Wait that might not be a good idea, I that ya'll have been waiting for a rematch since the last one ended.

BradM
08-17-2007, 08:42 AM
I had sorta overlooked a post by BamaVol,but danged if he ain't right. Those of you who cry and whine the loudest ARE Yankees! Wonder why that is? There's a government grant in there somewhere. Brad my boy,neither is gonna happen. You don't like it,don't read it. Like I said before,fire away,all it makes me do is laugh at how childish y'all are. The one thing that puzzles me is where did this "drama" stuff come from? Is this how you amuse yourself up north? Do you guys piss and moan like this when you bowl? All the tears on the approach explains the low scores up there! And I thought it was the sport patterns. Call your local USDA office and find out when they're having a free cheese day so you'll have something to go with your whine. But please,feel free to continue with your "drama" so I can start my day off with a good laugh! Oh,almost forgot. I have a bunch of guys around here who aren't members,but they read all the stuff you guys are writing and they're getting as big a kick out of your stuff as I am. And as far as a post count,I could care less how many posts I have. Some of you sure are hung up about that.Why? Do I get a toaster oven or something after so many posts? All this bitchin' from y'all,but my PM box is overflowing with guys wanting me to find stuff for them or give advice. They won't put it on a thread because they don't want some of you going off and trashing the thread. They just want the straight scoop without YOUR "drama". Strange,isn't it? But keep the hate mail coming in,it's really funny!:D


First off, I'm a Texan. Second, I have no doubt that the people around you get just as big a kick out of this as you do. Birds of a feather flock together and that counts for morons too.

You think you're the only one who gets pm's? Everyone gets them, you're not special.

mongoliantreesloth
08-17-2007, 09:16 AM
Yawn.........

BradM
08-17-2007, 09:25 AM
Yawn.........

AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE!:D

BigDog
08-17-2007, 09:47 AM
Life is pretty sweet with Rowdy on the ignore list. Now if I could just convince people to stop quoting his drama...


The ignore list is a wonderful thing indeed. As someone who was born in the "Show-Me" state, I've certainly been shown enough junk the past few days. It's getting more peaceful already.

At least this should limit my drama a bit. :)

Rowdy
08-17-2007, 03:57 PM
The rematch is over. I do belive Florida beat the crap out of Ohio State TWICE in a row!

Rowdy
08-17-2007, 04:36 PM
Oh I belive I'm on Josh's ignore list like he thinks he's some kind of celebrity around here. He won't be able to stand not knowing whats being said about him. He starts something with my wife and I'm the bad guy.Yeah,right.And no,this isn't some of that "drama" you guys keep harping about. What the hell is that "drama',anyway?
Brad-all I did was respond to your "wish list". And we get called "morons" for it? It's so funny how you people do the very thing you accuse me of doing. You're a Texan? Goody. Now I KNOW you're full of it.
Eightball-All you want is a Hammer spare ball? I've answered that question in 3 different threads and 15 pm's. BowlersDream.com has a BW spare ball.

As I said before,I was sure all the thin skinned people would start screaming about that post. And now we all know who you are.

Guys,I guess I owe all of you an apology.I really do,and I mean this from my heart. Sorry I'm not a "yes man" and blindly agree with every half baked,idiotic statement some of you come up with.
And I'm sorry I'm not an asskisser that bows down to the "stars of the site". You know who you are. You are the ones that are afraid of the truth and opinions that differ from your own "wisdom". You have your clique of buddies who will stroke your ego and kiss your ass as long as theres something in it for them.
So go take your drama to your Momma,cause she's the only one who wants to hear about it from you. Unless it's one of your asskissing buddies who needs something.
I don't need someone to tell me how good I am,it's right there on the board for everyone to see. I don't need anyone to tell me how to drill,hold,roll or clean a ball. I don't need anyone to tell me how to play a pattern,I figure it out on my own. I don't need anyone to tell me which ball I should buy,I know what my game needs. That's why I'm a Bowler and some of you just go bowling. Do us a favor. Instead of taking up a League spot with your crying and whining,just wait until they turn the black lights on and go "Bowling". That way you'll already have excuses for why you suck,and those League spots can go to real Bowlers!

BradM
08-17-2007, 04:42 PM
I don't need someone to tell me how good I am,it's right there on the board for everyone to see. I don't need anyone to tell me how to drill,hold,roll or clean a ball. I don't need anyone to tell me how to play a pattern,I figure it out on my own. I don't need anyone to tell me which ball I should buy,I know what my game needs.


Great! Sounds like you don't need this website. See ya!

steveo#3
08-17-2007, 04:49 PM
Speaking of tolerance, why doesn't everyone use it? Who give a flip if a topic has been discussed one, two, three or more other times? :rolleyes: Now, to an important question. Rowdy, where in world are these places on ebay that have the BWS for sale? How about sharing some of them with us? By the way Rowdy, we Southerners are suppossed to be genteel (sp?) and tolerate of those who started the War of Agression in 1860.

I can bet none of us were alive to start any war in 1860

Rowdy
08-17-2007, 04:50 PM
I LOVE it when narrow minded people pull something out of context to make it fit their own agenda. Why don't you just take a page out of Josh's book and just out and out LIE about whatever you want to. Just go "bowling" and let us adults worry about the big issues of the day.

BradM
08-17-2007, 04:51 PM
I LOVE it when narrow minded people pull something out of context to make it fit their own agenda. Why don't you just take a page out of Josh's book and just out and out LIE about whatever you want to. Just go "bowling" and let us adults worry about the big issues of the day.


Hahaha, narrow minded? Narrow minded? You're the one that jumps anyone's ass that has a comment about doing anything different than the way YOU do it. NARROW MINDED?

Have a good weekend.

steveo#3
08-17-2007, 05:01 PM
so...who's going bowling tonite?? I hope to...it would be cool for Hammer to have an "official" spare ball but I think I would keep using my old Rhino for my ten pins.

Rowdy
08-17-2007, 05:07 PM
There is a Hammer spare ball. Its called a Black Widow Spare.There you go.

Rowdy
08-17-2007, 05:13 PM
Brad-prove it.That's all.Just give up the facts. Remember,I'm the guy that uses kitty litter to get oil out of a ball so I don't think "narrow minded" would apply to me. But if you can come up with the COMPLETE version of where I jumped someones ass because they didn't do something the exact same way as me,I'd love to read it. Now,nothing out of context,we'll need the entire thread so I can read it.Have fun finding something that doesn't exist.

JoshWithrow
08-17-2007, 05:18 PM
Hahaha, narrow minded? Narrow minded? You're the one that jumps anyone's ass that has a comment about doing anything different than the way YOU do it. NARROW MINDED?

Have a good weekend.

Just ignore him. It makes life grand.

EIGHTBALL033
08-17-2007, 05:27 PM
Oh I belive I'm on Josh's ignore list like he thinks he's some kind of celebrity around here. He won't be able to stand not knowing whats being said about him. He starts something with my wife and I'm the bad guy.Yeah,right.And no,this isn't some of that "drama" you guys keep harping about. What the hell is that "drama',anyway?
Brad-all I did was respond to your "wish list". And we get called "morons" for it? It's so funny how you people do the very thing you accuse me of doing. You're a Texan? Goody. Now I KNOW you're full of it.
Eightball-All you want is a Hammer spare ball? I've answered that question in 3 different threads and 15 pm's. BowlersDream.com has a BW spare ball.

As I said before,I was sure all the thin skinned people would start screaming about that post. And now we all know who you are.

Guys,I guess I owe all of you an apology.I really do,and I mean this from my heart. Sorry I'm not a "yes man" and blindly agree with every half baked,idiotic statement some of you come up with.
And I'm sorry I'm not an asskisser that bows down to the "stars of the site". You know who you are. You are the ones that are afraid of the truth and opinions that differ from your own "wisdom". You have your clique of buddies who will stroke your ego and kiss your ass as long as theres something in it for them.
So go take your drama to your Momma,cause she's the only one who wants to hear about it from you. Unless it's one of your asskissing buddies who needs something.
I don't need someone to tell me how good I am,it's right there on the board for everyone to see. I don't need anyone to tell me how to drill,hold,roll or clean a ball. I don't need anyone to tell me how to play a pattern,I figure it out on my own. I don't need anyone to tell me which ball I should buy,I know what my game needs. That's why I'm a Bowler and some of you just go bowling. Do us a favor. Instead of taking up a League spot with your crying and whining,just wait until they turn the black lights on and go "Bowling". That way you'll already have excuses for why you suck,and those League spots can go to real Bowlers!

I HAVE SPARE BALL TUFF TO BE EXACT,HAD IT BEFORE YOU JOINED SITE,MUST SOMEONE ELSE:eek:

can-ham
08-17-2007, 05:29 PM
Brad-prove it.That's all.Just give up the facts. Remember,I'm the guy that uses kitty litter to get oil out of a ball so I don't think "narrow minded" would apply to me. But if you can come up with the COMPLETE version of where I jumped someones ass because they didn't do something the exact same way as me,I'd love to read it. Now,nothing out of context,we'll need the entire thread so I can read it.Have fun finding something that doesn't exist.

Wow back to your prove it defense.

1) You can start here: http://forums.hammerbowling.com/showpost.php?p=33521&postcount=58

2) Then you can go back and re-read all your post (as I know you pride your self on reading this forums old posts) and take a good look at your "so helpful" and "open minded" responses.

3) Stop dragging Tink into your crap, I believe she already made a public post about it.

4) Then you can GFY


Have a nice weekend hammer heads!

EIGHTBALL033
08-17-2007, 05:44 PM
Wow back to your prove it defense.

1) You can start here: http://forums.hammerbowling.com/showpost.php?p=33521&postcount=58

2) Then you can go back and re-read all your post (as I know you pride your self on reading this forums old posts) and take a good look at your "so helpful" and "open minded" responses.

3) Stop dragging Tink in to your crap, I believe she already made a public post about it.

4) They you can GFY


Have a nice weekend hammer heads!WELL SAID CAN THE MAN

Trydent
08-17-2007, 07:28 PM
4) They you can GFY


Have a nice weekend hammer heads!

LOL well said can!!! You have a good weekend too!

TenPinSniper
08-17-2007, 07:50 PM
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Eightball-All you want is a Hammer spare ball? I've answered that question in 3 different threads and 15 pm's. BowlersDream.com has a BW spare ball.


Guys,I guess I owe all of you an apology.I really do,and I mean this from my heart. Sorry I'm not a "yes man" and blindly agree with every half baked,idiotic statement some of you come up with.
And I'm sorry I'm not an asskisser that bows down to the "stars of the site". You know who you are. You are the ones that are afraid of the truth and opinions that differ from your own "wisdom". You have your clique of buddies who will stroke your ego and kiss your ass as long as theres something in it for them.
So go take your drama to your Momma,cause she's the only one who wants to hear about it from you. Unless it's one of your asskissing buddies who needs something.
I don't need someone to tell me how good I am,it's right there on the board for everyone to see. I don't need anyone to tell me how to drill,hold,roll or clean a ball. I don't need anyone to tell me how to play a pattern,I figure it out on my own. I don't need anyone to tell me which ball I should buy,I know what my game needs. That's why I'm a Bowler and some of you just go bowling. Do us a favor. Instead of taking up a League spot with your crying and whining,just wait until they turn the black lights on and go "Bowling". That way you'll already have excuses for why you suck,and those League spots can go to real Bowlers!


Okay someone hold Slap up when he hears this.....I'm gonna join a Sport League next month! I'm doing it to get ready for New Mexico next June. Will probably find a Spring Sport League to keep sharp for the Open. Now,my questions to those of you who have rolled in this before,any advice on how to play the different patterns? I'm going to roll the Widow's and both balls are very versitile.Inside,outside, I can throw them what ever way is needed to strike. I've looked at the patterns on paper but I want to hear what you guys have seen on the lane. Thanks in advance.


Alright Rowdy... here are my questions/requests for you.
When did you get you Black Widow Spare?
Post some of your own pictures of the "Black Widow Spare"... since we can get them, here in the states.

Cause I talked to Brian Graham on July 27th about my No Mercy Beat'n and possible Spare Balls... we are not going to get either of the approved Hammer Spare Balls. They are working on something, I got the feeling that it would be Oct/Nov time frame...well cause that what he told me...

Here the link: To Bowler's Dream; Hammer Index
http://bowlersdream.stores.yahoo.net/hammer.html
Here is what happens when you click on the Black Widow Spare
http://bowlersdream.stores.yahoo.net/widowspare.html
Here is the No Mercy
http://bowlersdream.stores.yahoo.net/nomercy.html
This one has the add to basket. Did the Spare???

Try it for yourselves... it could be my computer. You know how those homebuilt computer work. :rolleyes:

JoshWithrow
08-17-2007, 08:40 PM
I don't need anyone to tell me how to play a pattern,I figure it out on my own.

Now,my questions to those of you who have rolled in this before,any advice on how to play the different patterns?



Owned. Straight up owned.

Thepainscoming
08-17-2007, 08:54 PM
Rowdy, just saying here, but didn't u say that it was wrong to ruin a ball by changing the grit. I think it was the widows. U said that it takes some good things out of the ball.

Rowdy
08-17-2007, 09:30 PM
Thought I was on your ignore list,Josh. When you gonna apologize to Tink?
1,113 posts and that was all you could come up with? That I tried to mend a fence with the sport bowlers and asked their advice. I didn't need to. I can figure out those patterns myself.
Uh...would someone tell me when I bought a Black Widow Spare? I DO belive the sig line says "Bud Ball",not Black Widow Spare. I HAVE seen two of them. I can always get one shipped in from overseas,no problem there. But the funds were going to something more important.
Eightball-She did NOT make a post about what and who upset her.But I've had to deal with the fallout from that.So do I have a right to be angry with the person who upset my wife like that? Damn skippy I do. See 1st sentence.
Helpful and open minded? I'll help anyone who asks for it and as for open minded,I'll listen to anyone with a good idea who can present it in a grownup fashion.
And Can,you've bitched about language and such on here like you're the Morality Police.GFY? You first.
So to recap,you guys couldn't find anything earth shattering,you seem to not be able to read,and because of that I've been given credit for a ball I don't own,YET. Another one of you can't get your facts straight about who posted what and when.All of you think that I shouldn't be allowed to stand up for my wife.None of you know me,but think you do. And Mr.Don't Cuss Here tells me to go fuck myself. Have I got all that about right?
Well,I notice that it's always the same group of guys that are doing the bitching. Being "led" by a boy who won't admit that he is such a stud that he made a woman cry. Real manly there,Josh. Do you throw puppies off of bridges,too? When are you going to accept the bet that was sent your way? This is your chance to shut me up once and for all. I'll even sweeten the deal for you. If by some miracle you can be the first one to three wins,I'LL LEAVE THE SITE FOR GOOD! Now I've done everything but throw the ball for you. The deal is still the same. Neutral site,bring all the balls you want,15 min warmup,first one to three wins gets the cash,$500 per person. I know I don't have anything to worry about because you won't take the bet. And if you did,it would be over in three games,anyway. I could use the cash to buy a Black Widow Spare! What's it gonna be,boy?

JoshWithrow
08-17-2007, 10:38 PM
Thought I was on your ignore list,Josh. When you gonna apologize to Tink?
1,113 posts and that was all you could come up with? That I tried to mend a fence with the sport bowlers and asked their advice. I didn't need to. I can figure out those patterns myself.
Uh...would someone tell me when I bought a Black Widow Spare? I DO belive the sig line says "Bud Ball",not Black Widow Spare. I HAVE seen two of them. I can always get one shipped in from overseas,no problem there. But the funds were going to something more important.
Eightball-She did NOT make a post about what and who upset her.But I've had to deal with the fallout from that.So do I have a right to be angry with the person who upset my wife like that? Damn skippy I do. See 1st sentence.
Helpful and open minded? I'll help anyone who asks for it and as for open minded,I'll listen to anyone with a good idea who can present it in a grownup fashion.
And Can,you've bitched about language and such on here like you're the Morality Police.GFY? You first.
So to recap,you guys couldn't find anything earth shattering,you seem to not be able to read,and because of that I've been given credit for a ball I don't own,YET. Another one of you can't get your facts straight about who posted what and when.All of you think that I shouldn't be allowed to stand up for my wife.None of you know me,but think you do. And Mr.Don't Cuss Here tells me to go fuck myself. Have I got all that about right?
Well,I notice that it's always the same group of guys that are doing the bitching. Being "led" by a boy who won't admit that he is such a stud that he made a woman cry. Real manly there,Josh. Do you throw puppies off of bridges,too? When are you going to accept the bet that was sent your way? This is your chance to shut me up once and for all. I'll even sweeten the deal for you. If by some miracle you can be the first one to three wins,I'LL LEAVE THE SITE FOR GOOD! Now I've done everything but throw the ball for you. The deal is still the same. Neutral site,bring all the balls you want,15 min warmup,first one to three wins gets the cash,$500 per person. I know I don't have anything to worry about because you won't take the bet. And if you did,it would be over in three games,anyway. I could use the cash to buy a Black Widow Spare! What's it gonna be,boy?

Look still typing the same old shat. Still no proof, huh old man? Know why? It's all in your head. The offer still stands to let people login to my account to view the PMs that are sitting in my inbox (sent AND recieved) ever since account creation.

You have nothing further to say. If your wife cried over something I typed it's because she either lacks a sense of humor (aren't you the one always talking about how people need one?... wow, the irony) or, and this is my guess, it's all made up... because anybody that will cry over reading typed words on the anonymous intarwebs is pretty lame.

Still no proof, eh Rowdster? Funny, really... because it'll never turn up. It didn't happen. You're still making stuff up. Put up or shutup. But whatever you do stop repeating yourself because it's not helping your case.

TenPinSniper
08-17-2007, 11:16 PM
1,113 posts and that was all you could come up with?

That I tried to mend a fence with the sport bowlers and asked their advice. I didn't need to. I can figure out those patterns myself.

Uh...would someone tell me when I bought a Black Widow Spare? I DO belive the sig line says "Bud Ball",not Black Widow Spare. I HAVE seen two of them. I can always get one shipped in from overseas,no problem there. But the funds were going to something more important.


Eightball-She did NOT make a post about what and who upset her.But I've had to deal with the fallout from that.So do I have a right to be angry with the person who upset my wife like that? Damn skippy I do. See 1st sentence.

Helpful and open minded? I'll help anyone who asks for it and as for open minded,I'll listen to anyone with a good idea who can present it in a grownup fashion.

And Can,you've bitched about language and such on here like you're the Morality Police.GFY? You first.

So to recap,you guys couldn't find anything earth shattering,you seem to not be able to read,and because of that I've been given credit for a ball I don't own,YET. Another one of you can't get your facts straight about who posted what and when.All of you think that I shouldn't be allowed to stand up for my wife.None of you know me,but think you do. And Mr.Don't Cuss Here tells me to go fuck myself. Have I got all that about right?
Well,I notice that it's always the same group of guys that are doing the bitching. Being "led" by a boy who won't admit that he is such a stud that he made a woman cry. Real manly there,Josh. Do you throw puppies off of bridges,too? When are you going to accept the bet that was sent your way? This is your chance to shut me up once and for all. I'll even sweeten the deal for you. If by some miracle you can be the first one to three wins,I'LL LEAVE THE SITE FOR GOOD! Now I've done everything but throw the ball for you. The deal is still the same. Neutral site,bring all the balls you want,15 min warmup,first one to three wins gets the cash,$500 per person. I know I don't have anything to worry about because you won't take the bet. And if you did,it would be over in three games,anyway. I could use the cash to buy a Black Widow Spare! What's it gonna be,boy?


Yep you right, guess I just figured if "you" really knew how to get one. You'd have it drilled by now or atleast on it's way to you. Thought you where the biggest fan of the Black Widow... guess I was wrong. Oh well.
Guess I assumed that with all your talk of the BW Spare, and we can all them. Rowdy would have one. (By the way to anybody new to the forum or thread, the BW Spare's on the USBC approved ball list are oversea's only per Brian Graham-Hammer Brand Manager at Ebonite.)

Since you do not have one, maybe you could still get us some pictures of one of them you've seen... maybe you holding next to your Pearl or something cool. Wait from the way I understand you so good you don't really need a "spare ball"... I hope to aspire to that level someday.

Tell you what if Hammer made an oversea's Spare No Mercy, and I figuired out how to get one, you bet your... I'd have it. But I would never pay more for a spare ball than a strike ball.

Pretty sure Josh is not gonna bowl you for cash... So just take your $500 and get a BW Spare.

As far as us "Sport Bowlers", we don't need the bone or fence mended... we have walked the walked... I'm most of us will agree to that. You will have fun. Hope you still bowl the sport league, even though you are not going to NM. Its a great Experience. (By the way if I spoke out of line, for any bolwer who as bowled on a Sport Shot League/Tournament, PBA... whatever it maybe... speak up and let you voice be heard.) Cause I'm not jumping on anybody's bandwagon.

Open mind... really Rowdy? Not even gonna touch that.

If you really want us to come up with stuff... we do have 1100+ post. Pretty sure any of us, could find more. But really I think most are just over it.

Young300
08-17-2007, 11:29 PM
Hey, hey, hey, guys.

Fighting over the internet is like being in the special olympics... Even if you win you're still retarded.

Now get over the e-drama, it's pathetic.

can-ham
08-17-2007, 11:45 PM
Hey, hey, hey, guys.

Fighting over the internet is like being in the special olympics... Even if you win you're still retarded.

Now get over the e-drama, it's pathetic.

HAHAHA well put dude, I threw that one out on our last quack Marquis
http://forums.hammerbowling.com/showpost.php?p=5325&postcount=75

Seems there is always some internet-uber-moron running a muck on this forum.

Young300
08-17-2007, 11:54 PM
I was actually going to put that same thing in that exact same thread but you beat me to it! hahahaha!

I just figured that it is pathetic the way ADULTS are acting. Fact is, Josh has said some things that may have offended people inadvertantly. Rowdy has said some things to people that may have offended them directly. I can see how people are biting Rowdy's head off, I'm not one of them, because the only thing he has said to me was just like a bee sting. It hit me, then the spot swelled up, then I said what I had to say and it passed. I don't really care about what Rowdy says or Josh says, it's just the fact that adults are acting like immature kids on Counter Strike at 2 in the morning.

Find something that will get your mind off of what people say on here... Go bowling... that's something that we all have in common. Focus on a certain part of your game and clear your head. Don't sit in front of the dang computer screen moping because said something "mean". Honestly, I know what it feels like to have to defend someone you care about/love, but getting it this out of hand isn't helping anyone any... Now is it? But it is true that you need to take into account how you think people are typing it. As it is hard to express sarcasm discreetly or encouragment discreetly.

My advice to both Josh and Rowdy:

Take a break from the forums!!! Take a couple days off, rest your eyes from the bright computer screen, get up and get out and do something. This way, you both may be able to get your mind off things and clear your minds and come back with a *hopefully* clear conscience.

Rowdy
08-18-2007, 02:35 AM
Since you two seem to be in the same little clique as Josh,maybe you guys can answer the question:Why won't he come out and play? And for two people who don't care,those are some LONG posts. As far as a BW Spare goes,the funds that were gonna pay for the ball had to go towards some healthcare issues.And not mine.I'm sure you would agree that my wifes health is more important than a bowling ball.Open mind?Where DID that one come from?Oh wait.That would be your b/f Josh. Just like "Drama",whatever the hell that is.Since you don't even know me,how the hell would you know wether or not I have an open mind?Just another case of misconceptions getting in the way of the facts.By the way,your hero Josh didn't say something that offended inadvertantly,he offened my wife directly.Amazing how he always leaves that part out.So I go to Josh and ask why he did it and when is he going to apologize to her.Now he calls her lame?Really big man y'all look up to.Out come the name calling and drama crap.All I want him to do is admit to his mistakes and tell her he's sorry.But that seems to be too much trouble for him.Or he's too busy ducking me.Whatever.But he's shown me his true color.Brown,as in shit. Bring your cash and take your whipping like the spoiled little brat that you are,Josh.Or is this chance more than you can handle?Thats gotta be it.

Young300
08-18-2007, 02:47 PM
Rowdy, I wasn't siding with anyone. Now take my advice and take a vacation from the forum. Relax. Spend time with Tink, do what you love, bowl. I'm saying this in all sincerity, no bashing here.

SplitMaster
08-18-2007, 06:14 PM
LMFAO....this is getting stupid...it really is...seems more like all these guys hate each other.....forget bowling..settle it like real men.....then it will all be over..loser leave the forum....the bowling wont do anything but give the other a right to brag...meet in the octagon...kick some heads...kick some backs...crack a skull or two.....then..and only then..will it be over....wooohoooooooo

fb1130
08-25-2007, 08:33 AM
Since the retirement of the Tuff (and I never had a shot at getting one), what is next in-line for a Hammer spare ball? I hope it could be something along the lines of the everclear with a black widow in it :D . That would be so cool, and go great with the black widows.

they are about to release a black widow spare ball to replace the tuff

KINGSAME
08-25-2007, 08:53 AM
Long time comming for that.

mongoliantreesloth
08-25-2007, 10:11 AM
Damn skippy I do
Hey mate - Skippy is a national icon down here so please don't diss our favourite Roo :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skippy_the_Bush_Kangaroo
Skippy, Skippy
Skippy the Bush Kangaroo
Skippy, Skippy
Skippy, our friend ever true.

Rowdy
08-25-2007, 10:02 PM
Didn't know that. "Damn skippy" is a really popular saying here in The South. We've been saying that since I was a little kid,over 45 years ago. So this is my "I learned something new today" item.

mongoliantreesloth
08-26-2007, 07:55 PM
Fighting over the internet is like being in the special olympics... Even if you win you're still retarded.
Not a very well thought out post. Next time kindly engage your brain before typing and don't post anything as crass as this again.

JoshWithrow
08-26-2007, 08:46 PM
Not a very well thought out post. Next time kindly engage your brain before typing and don't post anything as crass as this again.

Get off your high horse, stick to the original topic, and/or leave it be? This just isn't necessary at this point. Please, leave last week in the past.

Rowdy
08-26-2007, 09:58 PM
Amen to that,Josh. We left all that behind and Young just had a brain fart when he wrote that. No malice toward anyone was intended. Everybody be happy!:) :) :) :)

grayfin68
08-31-2007, 02:50 PM
I got a response from Brian Graham about the Hammer spare ball. Here's the scoop:

Hammer is currently working on a new spare ball, however, it will be tied to a particular line. He wouldn't say which line the spare ball will be tied to so I don't know.

At first I thought the obvious choice would be the Black Widow, but they already make one for overseas, so why would they need to develop it still?

My next suspicion is the No Mercy series since it's their high end line.

My hope is that it's the Raw line because I have the Anger, Pain and Toxic.

I also let Brian know that I would prefer a Hammer spare ball not be tied to a line because I don't own balls in all of the lines. Frankly, I may just get a Tuff while I still can.

hammeredinkansas
08-31-2007, 02:56 PM
Gotta love the TUFF...if you can find one. It may not be the prettiest ball out there, but it does the job! Actually, I kinda like the looks of it as it rolls down the lane.

grayfin68
08-31-2007, 06:27 PM
Gotta love the TUFF...if you can find one. It may not be the prettiest ball out there, but it does the job! Actually, I kinda like the looks of it as it rolls down the lane.

I asked Brian some more questions; one about the Tuff or a general Hammer spare ball and a question about a dry lanes ball.

He told me the Tuff didn't do enough sales volume to justify making another general Hammer spare ball.

JoshWithrow
08-31-2007, 08:06 PM
Hence the reason it'll be tied to a line... there is no line as big as the RAW line right now, so I'm gonna say not to be surprised when you see the new RAW MEAT spareball lol