Suggestions For Mass Bias Ball

[Mung]

I'm looking into getting a ball with a mass bias. I currently have a Toxic and a Blue Vibe. I'm looking for something that will compliment the two. I throw around 16 mph with medium revs. The house I bowl in uses medium oil. I'm guessing one of the widows would be the best choice but I'm not sure which would be the best choice. Which would be best suited to compliment the wo balls I already have? Any suggestions?

[idlehourlegend]

I think the BWP would be a great ball to compliment the Toxic and blue vibe.Out of the box it will hook a little less than the toxic and more than the blue vibe so it would fit in beatiful.

[blistershurt]

Correction: You're looking for a high mass bias ball, all balls have a mass bias.

Well...as for what i would suggest to complement your balls...

Well, if you are leaning to a smooth transition to the Toxic get a BWP, if you sand it to 4000 it hooks more than BW and will maintain the skid/flip look you would like.

[Rowdy]

Aside from the fact that all balls have a Mass Bias,I think from your post you're looking for something that goes a bit farther down the lane before it does it's thing. I know this is gonna cause some people out in HammerLand to have a small stroke,but I think you oughta skip over the Widows and go with a NoMercy. The HART core sounds to me like a better fit than the Gas Mask Core in the Widows. It'll hook cleaner right out of the box without all the tuning you need to do to a Widow to get them just right.

[Rowdy]

Blisters- you don't need to do anything to a Widow to get it to 4000. That's the way they come OOB.

[BubbaRay]

The BWP will compliment the Toxic and Vibe just fine. All the others before me gave some good advice also. get the one that suits your game the best and what you want the ball to do. I have my NM drilled with a trick layout to go further down the lane before making it's move. When it decides to turn it turns. My BW is drilled the same way and it's a nice gradual break into the 1-3.

Here are 2 graphs to show the difference in the balls.

[slap]

My first choice for your arsenal would be an Anger BUT based on your request I agree with Rowdy on the No Mercy.

[bluerrpilot]

I would choose the NM as well. Or if you really want the BW stay with the solid. That way you have 2 pearls and a solid.

But the bigger questions is, WHY must you have a ball with a distinct mass bias.

[TenPinSniper]

What kinda of reaction are you looking between the two balls.
The two balls you have are polished... probably would need something dull. Althought some people just like to throw polished equipment all the time on house conditions.

No Mercy or Anger would be good choices, most likely. The No Mercy has a Mass Bias that is found 6 3/4 from the Pin and Hart at 90 degrees. But the Hart drilling are recommended for drillings. (Generally)

[Mung]

Thanks for the input so far guys. I should have asking the question in reference to assymetrical cores instead of putting mass bias. I'm wanting to try one of the higher end balls. I have a few questions based on the replies I've gotten.

Would a No Mercy work well on medium/light oil?

What kind of tuning is needed for the Widows to get them just right? IS Rowdy referring to sanding and whatnot?

Thanks again.

[bluerrpilot]

Thanks for the input so far guys. I should have asking the question in reference to assymetrical cores instead of putting mass bias. I'm wanting to try one of the higher end balls. I have a few questions based on the replies I've gotten.

Would a No Mercy work well on medium/light oil? NO Its more for heavy oil

What kind of tuning is needed for the Widows to get them just right? IS Rowdy referring to sanding and whatnot? Most balls will require some sort of tuning to get it to do something specific. Either changing surface or adding an x-hole.

Thanks again.


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[Mung]

Just thought I'd ask since some were suggesting the NM, especially when I stated I bowl on medium oil.

So I'm guessing one of the BW's will be the way to go.

[bluerrpilot]

Just thought I'd ask since some were suggesting the NM, especially when I stated I bowl on medium oil.




Thats what polish is for. :D

[bluerrpilot]

Given that there are really only 2 MB balls to choose from NM and BW, that doesn’t leave a lot of choices. As Rowdy said, the BW can be somewhat sensitive. So that’s the reason for some saying to go with the NM.

I assume the reason for you wanting an asymmetric ball is for a more violent reaction in the back of the lane. Again, assuming that the Toxic isn’t sharp enough. That’s another reason for going with the NM or even the NMB.

[TenPinSniper]

Thats what polish is for. :D

The No Mercy can be used for Medium oil shots (Fresh, ones..). Will open up the shot for you.

I have used my NM Polished on the second shift (kinda) and Shorter PBA Patterns. Used 2000 Abralon Polished.

[Rowdy]

To tune up a Black Widow depends on what kind of game you have. Of course you have to start with the right layout and drilling. I like the #1 layout,skid/flip because I can make that Widow dance with that layout. Next would be finger inserts and a thumb slug. Me? I love 'em. Then you would have to decide after about 20 games or so if you want to work on the coverstock of the ball. Polish it to go longer,sand it for a shorter,harder hook. Again,depends on what you bring to the party. Remember that you're gonna have to ignore about half of your shots when evalulating a change to the ball. That's because the speed wasn't constant. Speed is life with the Widows. Buy one or both and have some fun with them.:)

[slap]

Just thought I'd ask since some were suggesting the NM, especially when I stated I bowl on medium oil.


The NM was suggested to give your arsenal more depth. A properly designed arsenal should cover a variety of conditions. In a small arsenal it doesn't make sense to have three balls that do almost the same thing.

Right now you have a strong reactive pearl and a weaker reactive pearl. Assuming standard layouts and OOB surface grits, your coverage is medium-ish through medium-light. Logically the next ball for your arsenal is a reactive solid. Personally I would stay in the Raw Hammer line and get an Anger with a layout and surface prep for medium-heavy. However you asked for an asymmetrical ball so that limits you to the BW or NM. I personally like the pairing of the Toxic and No Mercy.

Even though you bowl on "medium oil" The No Mercy, with a proper layout and surface prep is a good suggestion.