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blistershurt
11-18-2007, 02:17 PM
I've decided I'm going to buy a versitile ball, sand down the Widow, and put a benchmark drill on a new ball.

My hole in my bag will be covering ALL medium oils, long and short. This ball will also probably be my go to ball for any short shot (then the CV right after it, got it redrilled to go LOOOOOOOOONNNNNG)

I was thinking a BWP would be a great ball for this, maybe even a Doom. What drill would you put on a ball (include a high mass bias and a low mass bias drill) to make it your "benchmark" ball?

My BW is just a strong roll, I'm going to sand it down to 2000, and the roll will get even stronger, then get a benchmark ball to put between it and the CV.

I'm thinking a pin down drill is going to work the best on a benchmark ball, I have no clue what i would put on the BWP, as for the Doom I would put the pin under the ring and the CG in the thumb quadrant (its a little flippy, and this would smooth it out some).

My specs: ball speed 17-18 mph, revs around 250, axis tilt little to none, axis rotation guessing about 15 degrees. PAP is 5 1/2 over and 1 up (lowered the track so my thumbhole doesnt get messed up like it did on the poor CV)

Thepainscoming
11-18-2007, 06:57 PM
Well blisters, i too am getting a benchmark ball. Now i dont have a drill for u. But IMO the perfect benchmark ball would be a weaker particle pearl. Or a reactive solid thats weaker. That way its not too aggressive but its not super skid/snap either.

blistershurt
11-18-2007, 07:10 PM
I threw a BWP with the pin under the ring finger, Mass bias in the strong position, and the CG slightly kicked out, and I loved it, it was very smooth actually, I think I might get a BWP and put that on it

Thepainscoming
11-18-2007, 07:13 PM
U know blisters, the Saga would be really good for this spot.

blistershurt
11-18-2007, 07:24 PM
hmmm...thought about a Doom with a pin down drill too, biggest thing here that i need is a controlled breakpoint

Thepainscoming
11-18-2007, 07:27 PM
hmmm...thought about a Doom with a pin down drill too, biggest thing here that i need is a controlled breakpoint Yea definetly. Thats why for me i would go with a solid or a paticle pearl.

bluerrpilot
11-18-2007, 07:52 PM
I think it depends on what you consider to be a bench mark ball. IMO a benchmark ball is something that you use to read the lane conditions and pattern, regardless of the volume of oil or the length. The idea is to determine the length of the oil pattern and where the friction is. With that in mind, I want a ball that has a very predictable roll and a cover that will react to the friction as soon as possible but not over-react. And I don’t want anything to artificially influence the skid or traction. Like too much pearl or particle additives. Rico drills on weak cover, symmetric solid balls work well as benchmarks in my opinion.

blistershurt
11-18-2007, 07:57 PM
Hmmm...I think of a benchmark ball as a ball that would skid too much on too heavy, but be too much ball on light, so really something to cover medium-heavy to medium-light, prefferably with a controlled breakpoint so I could use it effectively on the shorter patterns as well (surface adjustments can most of the times fix this)

bluerrpilot
11-18-2007, 08:06 PM
Regardless of the pattern, the idea is to find where the breakpoint is that will give you the best look and opportunity to score. However that is accomplished is ones personal preference

blistershurt
11-18-2007, 08:10 PM
Yeah, good point, I feel comfortable playing outside with a ball that starts up earlier, like the BW is very snappy for me, so I dont get it too far outside of the 8 usually, the CV starts earlier, but hooks less, so I'm comfortable throwing 10-3 with it.

The only type of reaction I really loathe on the back, is an early rolling backend. It just gives up for me, the Big One was laid out like that and it skidded, then rolled, no backend, just a lazy roll really I want something with a slightly earlier roll and continuation through the pins. I'd be comfortable throwing on anything if I could find that.

By the way, messed up on the PAP measurements, they were guestimates and i just measure for sure, and mine is 5 1/2 over 1 up. (used CV for this, no balance holes, CG in palm) My CV's pin is at 6inches from my PAP now and its finally weak enough for my liking, so that is one solved.

Young300
11-19-2007, 11:49 AM
I think it depends on what you consider to be a bench mark ball. IMO a benchmark ball is something that you use to read the lane conditions and pattern, regardless of the volume of oil or the length. The idea is to determine the length of the oil pattern and where the friction is. With that in mind, I want a ball that has a very predictable roll and a cover that will react to the friction as soon as possible but not over-react. And I don’t want anything to artificially influence the skid or traction. Like too much pearl or particle additives. Rico drills on weak cover, symmetric solid balls work well as benchmarks in my opinion.

Rico drilled Track Temper would be an amazing benchmark ball. That is what I am looking at getting drilled.

Thepainscoming
11-19-2007, 02:36 PM
Rico drilled Track Temper would be an amazing benchmark ball. That is what I am looking at getting drilled.
I was thinking about it. But i really don't like ebonite anymore. And i am able to get my hands on the machine line so im thinking about getting the machine and power machine. Then RoboRule for heavy.