spinner technique

[steelcityguy0530]

How exactly do you do it. I've heard of it and I've seen it on youtube, but never in person. It seems like an interesting technique. Can anyone instruct how to do it?

some videos of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XGMgnTkLUQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFcaGwdLEnw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0whrtk7yh3M&feature=related

[BubbaRay]

The best way I can describe this type of release is the hand opening at the top of the swing, with the fingers at about 8 or 9 o'clock, creates this type of roll, with the fingers rotating to about 3 o'clock at release. A spinner is a tough track to use where you are trying to get the right amount of side roll and axis tilt, especially when you're trying to roll on a lot of different lane conditions. On very oily lanes, a spinner will spin too much and not break early enough to be effective. The ball track for the spinner is way outside the thumb and finger holes, three to five inches from the thumb hole and a track diameter of 18 inches or less.

I strongly do not advise trying this type of release

[steelcityguy0530]

why do you strongly advise not to use it?

[Dado]

why would you want to?

[steelcityguy0530]

It seems like a pretty interesting throw.

[blistershurt]

I've known two people who used this style before, basically the pin carry is COMPLETE luck, the ball reflects so much its hard to get an actual pocket strike. Both of the people who had this release averaged low (one 110, other 140) now one is a tweener, the other a cranker, and one averages 190, the other around 180

[idlehourlegend]

Yea what Blister was trying to say is deflects not reflects but close though. Yea the carry is terrible because the ball doesnt have enough drive, its just spinning and the ball hits the pins and keeps spinning and just deflects instead of having the drive if you had regular rotation. I would not reccomend this either.

[WAL]

It is common type of throw in Asia, since they develop this type of release.
It is known as "UFO" because it spin stright while it moving in stright line.
If you are not familiar to this release, you might break your fingers doing this.
Asian people use lighter bowling ball, therefore it is less likely to get injure.
Here is a video one throwing UFO and one use normal release.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXcwCbuijRQ&feature=related
I think Budda just trying to say it is easier to get injure this way so he advise not to use it, actually this way create too little power to get the backend power you want, so even though i'm asian but i'll stick to normal release :)

[BubbaRay]

And not only that, if you have an established release now , throiwing the spinner will cause you all sorts of problems after awhile. You will take forever trying to get your normal release back to where it used to be. Asian's use lighter balls, usually throw on shorter oil patterns. Why would want to throw one in the first place. A crankers release is an interessting release also why not try that. A full roller is an interesting release, why not throw that?

[Street Racer]

maybe he wants to be asian?

lol

[Stampy79]

They use lighter balls and they dont use near as much oil as we do either

[coasterp]

Actually the proper term for this release is the "Helicopter" release. It is very popular is Asian countries due to a lack of oil on the lanes. The method involves spinning a very light (ypically 10 pound ball) staright at the head pin. The carry comes from the ball deflecting through the pins. Averages are typically around 210 for bowlers who master this release. While this does not sound like much, it isn't bad when everyone else is struggling to shoot 170. It is difficult to master and can cause many wrist problems.

[drw02]

it can also damange the tendons in the fingers ( rip them) and move the muscles in your fingers away from the bone if u bowl like this for a long time

[steelcityguy0530]

thanks for the info. What is a crankers and full roller release?

[WAL]

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/kennmelvin/tStyles.htm
This website will help you

[WAL]

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/kennmelvin/VCranker.Htm
cranker video