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the rock
11-25-2007, 04:57 AM
Just wondering people in your opinion what is the best ball for real heavy oil conditions and why?? doesnt have to be a hammer either. thanks :)

blistershurt
11-25-2007, 10:53 AM
AMB Particle (Visionary)....nuff said

Stampy79
11-25-2007, 06:26 PM
Columbia Resurgence

coasterp
11-25-2007, 09:02 PM
Raw Hammer Anger. I have not found enough oil for it yet.

idlehourlegend
11-25-2007, 09:04 PM
Raw Anger or No mercy Beat'n. Like coaster said I the anger hooks on just about anything,and I have seen a few people throw the Beat'n and it is also a great heavy oil ball and very smooth reaction.

Street Racer
11-26-2007, 01:18 AM
isnt the fury i gave u good enough ? lol

the rock
11-26-2007, 04:38 AM
isnt the fury i gave u good enough ? lol

Yes, I'm just wondering on other ppls opinions! :p :p lol

idlehourlegend
11-26-2007, 11:11 AM
isnt the fury i gave u good enough ? lol

The fury is made by bru...... and she just wants a real ball.:)

BubbaRay
11-26-2007, 11:16 AM
I'll be honest I threw a Fury before I Came to Hammer and in my opinion the ball was very very unpredictable.I just couldn't get it to react the same way twice.

Now since Comming to strictly Hammer I can go into any league night or tournament I bowl in and know how each ball will react. I recommend Hammer Brand products. But everyone has their preferences.

slap
11-26-2007, 12:52 PM
the shot in our modified ths league is long and heavy. I see a lot of the levRG, awesome hook, gamebreaker, nvs, no mercy, fury, and last week I actually saw a Global 900 break. I don't see to much from Track, Columbia or Storm. This area is all about Brunswick, Hammer, Ebonite.

Personally I've used my NM @ 2000, WMB @ 320 , LevRG @ 1000, and an Awesome Revs @ 500 abralon.

Street Racer
11-26-2007, 04:35 PM
Now since Comming to strictly Hammer I can go into any league night or tournament I bowl in and know how each ball will react. I recommend Hammer Brand products. But everyone has their preferences.

i would have to agree.... my first choose is hammer... but who cant say no to a free new release? lol

blistershurt
11-26-2007, 04:40 PM
Visionary is the same as owning a Faball really. The AMB particle is the best heavy oil ball out there in terms of having no hand. The ball is so aggressive you can throw 15-5 easy on heavy oil with it with little hand.

Street Racer
11-26-2007, 05:32 PM
well while we are on the talk about heavy oil ball... would you americans class this as a heavy oil ball

my black widow... sanded to 1000 grit... picture below.. oh btw you will see in this picture logans shity tenpin great pluggings!...(but they arnt shit now... they got a kegel).. hehehe

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/Lateralgboy/100_2492.jpg

blistershurt
11-26-2007, 05:34 PM
My BW is drilled exactly like the first drill was on that one.

BW at 1000 should be great for heavy, I can use it at 2000

Street Racer
11-26-2007, 05:52 PM
My BW is drilled exactly like the first drill was on that one.

BW at 1000 should be great for heavy, I can use it at 2000

awesome... thanks man... i will get to use it when... i see heavy oil in australia...http://www.totalbowling.com.au/forum/images/smilies/General/banner_88x31_f1.gif

bluerrpilot
11-26-2007, 06:31 PM
Yes, it can be used on heavy conditions. Personally, if Im looking for something for heavy oil I go with Low RG stuff. On Heavy oil, I want the ball rolling clean and smooth. High RG, high MB rated balls give too much squirt and can be unpredictable

Street Racer
11-26-2007, 06:52 PM
Yes, it can be used on heavy conditions. Personally, if Im looking for something for heavy oil I go with Low RG stuff. On Heavy oil, I want the ball rolling clean and smooth. High RG, high MB rated balls give too much squirt and can be unpredictable

whys that? i'm just wondering thats all...

Tinkerbell
11-26-2007, 07:43 PM
Blue you might want to look at a Gamebreaker. Ebonite makes it. I threw mine on the Viper and it didn't even know there was any oil on the lane. I am sure this is what you are looking for.

bluerrpilot
11-26-2007, 07:52 PM
Got one....Being plugged up right now. Actually my Anger and NM do pretty good. I have the NM to roll very early, and we all know about the Anger

bluerrpilot
11-26-2007, 07:54 PM
whys that? i'm just wondering thats all...

Why is what???

Street Racer
11-26-2007, 08:35 PM
Why is what???

why you would pick Low RG stuff for heavy oil lanes?

i'm not scared of asking questions i dont know..

blistershurt
11-26-2007, 09:03 PM
Generally, lower RG equipment picks its roll up quicker. That's why when you look for a lighter oil ball to complement a BW, you would look at RG for a similar breakpoint. BW and CV in #15 are almost exactly the same, if the drill is similar (still going to look slightly different BW is HMB, CV is LMB) they will have a similar breakpoint.

Street Racer
11-26-2007, 09:43 PM
Generally, lower RG equipment picks its roll up quicker. That's why when you look for a lighter oil ball to complement a BW, you would look at RG for a similar breakpoint. BW and CV in #15 are almost exactly the same, if the drill is similar (still going to look slightly different BW is HMB, CV is LMB) they will have a similar breakpoint.

oh true... fair enough.....

thanks for that man:)..

bluerrpilot
11-26-2007, 10:52 PM
Generally, lower RG equipment picks its roll up quicker. That's why when you look for a lighter oil ball to complement a BW, you would look at RG for a similar breakpoint. BW and CV in #15 are almost exactly the same, if the drill is similar (still going to look slightly different BW is HMB, CV is LMB) they will have a similar breakpoint.

Correct on the RG. On the heavy side I usally want early roll and good predictable midlane.

Although they are a bit different in layout, my CV and BW are almost identical in reaction and shape. The CV is about 3-4 feet longer.

Stampy79
11-27-2007, 09:37 AM
Keep careful track of the games on that Gamebreaker. We have found it to be one of the most high maintenance balls on the market

Street Racer
11-27-2007, 05:03 PM
Keep careful track of the games on that Gamebreaker. We have found it to be one of the most high maintenance balls on the market

only if u dont clean it...

Rowdy
11-27-2007, 05:32 PM
Doesn't matter. I put Tink's Gamebreaker in a bucket of hot water yesterday and two minutes later a driller for Exxon ran into the bathroom and shouthed,"It's a gusher!". She cleans that ball after every nights bowling.

Street Racer
11-27-2007, 05:47 PM
Doesn't matter. I put Tink's Gamebreaker in a bucket of hot water yesterday and two minutes later a driller for Exxon ran into the bathroom and shouthed,"It's a gusher!". She cleans that ball after every nights bowling.

yeah... and does it still performance the same? it should... bowling balls cant be that high maintenance that u have to clean it everysingle frame..

Rowdy
11-27-2007, 06:04 PM
Actually I'm really impressed with the Gamebreaker. It's a pretty good ball for the money. Soaks up some oil,but hey,I own BW's so I know all about that!:p When it's heavy or fresh oil,Tink pulls that Gamebreaker out and starts pounding the rack. Only beef I have is that she uses my line when she does it.:eek: Makes me have to move sooner.:(

bluerrpilot
11-27-2007, 06:30 PM
Doesn't matter. I put Tink's Gamebreaker in a bucket of hot water yesterday and two minutes later a driller for Exxon ran into the bathroom and shouthed,"It's a gusher!". She cleans that ball after every nights bowling.

LOL....I think the same Exxon worker actually drilled the weight hole into the ball I got from Stampy. He said if I get a flashlight and some binoculars I might be able to see China. :D