View Full Version : First week with no Ebonite family ball on TV!
can-ham
12-03-2007, 09:28 AM
This week was all Brunswick (well one MoRich) with one Storm...
Walter Ray Williams Jr. - Mo Rich N'Sane LevRG
Chris Loschetter - Brunswick Twisted Fury
Mike Scroggins - Storm Shift
Parker Bohn III - Brunswick Twisted Fury
Diandra Asbaty - Brunswick Radical Inferno
Carolyn Dorin-Ballard - Brunswick Original Inferno
Young300
12-03-2007, 10:44 AM
It shows that the softer surfaces of the bowling balls like Brunswick's were the way to go for this weekend.
bluerrpilot
12-03-2007, 10:52 AM
Kinda makes you think its the bowler and not the ball :rolleyes:
idlehourlegend
12-03-2007, 11:55 AM
Ballard was using the absolute inferno not the original.
can-ham
12-03-2007, 12:04 PM
I guess buddies got it wrong. I just cut and past fro there, Brunswicks all look a like to me ;)
idlehourlegend
12-03-2007, 12:23 PM
Yea Im not sure now, because I just looked at the two of them and they are pretty similar looking, they are each like gray, orange, and blue mix. I dont really know much about the inferno line but I used to have an absolute. It could have been either one, I just never knew that they looked almost exactly the same.
Thepainscoming
12-03-2007, 01:52 PM
It was definetly an absolute. The original wasn't as dark and didn't have the grey in it.
Young300
12-03-2007, 02:11 PM
Kinda makes you think its the bowler and not the ball :rolleyes:
Just because there weren't any Ebonite family bowling balls out there doesn't mean anything. I am sure that if any of those that made the show were using an Ebonite family product they wouldn't have been there because of the difference in hardness of the coverstocks from Brunswick to the Ebonite family. The fact is, the softer coverstocks of the Brunswick Inferno line must have matched up better with the transitioning of the lanes than the other companys' balls.
Thepainscoming
12-03-2007, 02:18 PM
Well brunswick is naturally arcing and that helps control the backend and over/under of the cheetah pattern.
bluerrpilot
12-03-2007, 02:36 PM
Well brunswick is naturally arcing and that helps control the backend and over/under of the cheetah pattern.
So does a pin down layout ;)
bluerrpilot
12-03-2007, 02:43 PM
I am sure that if any of those that made the show were using an Ebonite family product they wouldn't have been there because of the difference in hardness of the coverstocks from Brunswick to the Ebonite family. The fact is, the softer coverstocks of the Brunswick Inferno line must have matched up better with the transitioning of the lanes than the other companys' balls.
I guess the 299 and 300 by Oatman and others not throwing Brunswick was a fluke.
Before you go and make a statment with the words "the fact is" I think you should do a little research first.
blistershurt
12-03-2007, 03:25 PM
Also, Brunswick's covers arent softer...they all are the same as the other company's reactive balls on the Drex or whatever scale.
Thepainscoming
12-03-2007, 05:55 PM
So does a pin down layout ;)
O i know, but at least with the balls being naturally rolly, they don't have to be limited to only pin down layouts. It was just an observation.
Young300
12-03-2007, 06:02 PM
Wow, sorry if I offended your Hammerheadness if I said that Brunswick balls matched up better through the transitions than the Ebonite Family balls. That's what made the difference, not throwing the 300's or 299's. Having a consistent ball reaction is what makes the difference, and it shows that with the Brunswick coverstocks they were able to work with the reaction and stay consistent.
bluerrpilot
12-03-2007, 06:15 PM
Young, I was absolutely NOT offended. I was just disagreeing with your comment that certain bowlers made the show because of the hardness of the ball coverstock. Playing on those patterns is all about controlling the breakpoint and backend of the lane. At the level those guys are at, the ball has very little to do with them succeeding or being consitant at scoring.
WRW has thrown just about every Mfgr. out there and still manages to excel and win. And has done so on just about every condition out there too
idlehourlegend
12-04-2007, 01:16 PM
Can, I just looked on Buddies and they fixed it, it was an absolute inferno Dorin Ballard was using.
TenPinSniper
12-04-2007, 05:41 PM
I guess the 299 and 300 by Oatman and others not throwing Brunswick was a fluke.
Before you go and make a statment with the words "the fact is" I think you should do a little research first.
No its not a fluke, these guys are more skilled than most. Does it surprise me that someone , who did not have the same quality of read over the weekend still is able to produce scores this high? Not surprised.
But, I'm surprised that the Ebonite Family did not have anybody in the show.
Also, Brunswick's covers arent softer...they all are the same as the other company's reactive balls on the Drex or whatever scale.
http://www.bowl.com/Downloads/pdf/Specs/EquipManual/EQM-BowlBallSpecific..pdf
Have not seen any mfg advertising ball hardness, lately.
It shows that the softer surfaces of the bowling balls like Brunswick's were the way to go for this weekend.
Fact Check!
How did you determine that Brunswicks balls are softer? I would like to see some information to back that up.
From a google search the Twisted Fury and Absoulte are 76-77 hardness. I haven't been able to find specs on the Ebonite/Hammer equipment yet week, but in quickly comparing specs with Storm and Lanemasters/Legends 76-77 is about average.
Young300
12-05-2007, 12:19 PM
I actually heard it from the Storm ball Rep. Chris Schlemer during the Storm seminar at Junior Gold this past summer. So I would say that he is a reliable source when it comes to things as he works with PDW, Norm, Jeff Carter and many other PBA Storm bowlers. They were talking about how the softer ball surfaces allow the ball to have a more even arcing appearence, like Storm and Brunswick, so they are able to control the backend of the lane more than they would if they would have something that has a harder surface which would create an over/under reaction.
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