Oatman -

[idlehourlegend]

Was watching the tour and noticed that green and yellow ball that Billy was switching to. Does anybody know what it was? Its really cool looking and I was just wondering if it might be a new release or not.

[BubbaRay]

Looked like a Toxic. But he was throwing the BWB also.

[BradM]

Vicious I think.

[BubbaRay]

Hammer has only 1 new release . It's the BW Bite

[BradM]

The Vicious is an old pearl particle.

[bluerrpilot]

I'm pretty sure it was the big blue. TV doesn't display some colors correctly and that should be blue and yellow. Thats why they change the color of billiard balls for TV

[Lonewolf300800]

i agree with bluerrpilot, the ball was a big blue. along with the Black Widow and the missed spare attempt with a blue vibe.

[BradM]

do a google search for a particle vicious or a vicious particle. It looks just like the ones Ive seen and if my 3k dollar tv is that far off on colors Im going to be angry. :D

[BradM]

it can be found under the discontinued hammer balls on www.bowlingballreviews.com

[idlehourlegend]

It dont think it was the viscious particle, I looked at the pic and the ball on t.v. didnt look like that.

[BradM]

pba.com is showing the big blue pearl. Why is the color messed up in the broadcast?

[BubbaRay]

That was not the viscious particle .

[Sin City Hammer]

It looked like the toxic and had more yellow to it than the green. I've seen one other person use the toxic that was colored that way.

[agroves]

Big Blue Pearl X out

http://brunswickinsiders.com/PBA%20Tournaments/08Spartanburg/PhotosSpartanburg/bowlingballs/oatmantvball3.jpg

[BubbaRay]

Billy O would not throw an X Out.

[can-ham]

Buddies lists it as:
Billy Oatman - Hammer Black Widow Solid bowling ball, Hammer Raw Hammer Toxic, Hammer Blue Vibe, Brunswick Denny's Viz-a-Ball, Hammer Shirt, Hammer Towel, Etonic Dress shoes, Vise Patch, Etonic Patch

But the bigger news there's a new Black widow coming out!
http://www.hammerbowling.com/wpimages/bite.jpg (http://www.hammerbowling.com/products/balls/detail.php?PRKey=67)

[ravenhammer]

At first glance I thought it was a Vicious Part. as well but on closer study it was a BBP. If he would have just used 1 ball he would have done better. He was defiantly over thinking the whole time. He went back to the return once because of a bad feel and even had a "balk". He'd still beet me 90%(at least) of the time.

[ravenhammer]

But the bigger news there's a new Black widow coming out!
Bubba announced that one last week here.
(http://forums.hammerbowling.com/showthread.php?t=5579)

[VmsTopGun]

Week 9 - Spartanburg Classic - Pattern 37 ft. in length - Viper Pattern
Parker Bohn III - Brunswick Twisted Fury bowling ball (https://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/5107/Brunswick_Twisted_Fury_Bowling_Ball.htm), Brunswick Pepsi Viz-a-Ball, Brunswick Logoed shirt, Brunswick Men's Swirl Black/Gold Bowling Shoes (https://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/3642/Brunswick_Mens_Swirl_Bowling_Shoes_-_GreyBlack_Swirl_with_Black_Trim_-_Left_Handed.htm), Vise Patch (https://www.buddiesproshop.com/products/27-Finger_Grips__Slugs/0~99999/29-Vise/All/All/page.htm), and Bohn Zone Logo (http://www.parkerbohn.com/)
Rhino Page - Storm Spit Fire bowling ball (https://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/3992/Storm_Spit_Fire_Bowling_Ball.htm), Ice Storm (https://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/5123/Storm_Ice_Storm_Bowling_Ball.htm), Storm Patch, Vise Patch (https://www.buddiesproshop.com/products/27-Finger_Grips__Slugs/0~99999/29-Vise/All/All/page.htm), Unknown Shoes
Patrick Allen - Ebonite Raid bowling ball (https://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/4639/Ebonite_Raid_Bowling_Ball.htm), Brunswick Denny's Viz-a-Ball, Dexter Shirt, Vise Patch (https://www.buddiesproshop.com/products/27-Finger_Grips__Slugs/0~99999/29-Vise/All/All/page.htm), Dexter SST6 LE shoes (https://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/4256/Dexter_Mens_SST_6_LE_Bowling_Shoes_-_Left_Handed.htm) using a Tri-Dex Heel (https://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/2232/Dexter_Replacment_Heel_-_Tri_Dex_-_Medium_Brake.htm)
Billy Oatman - Hammer Black Widow Solid bowling ball (https://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/3212/Hammer_Black_Widow_Bowling_Ball.htm), Hammer Raw Hammer Toxic (https://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/3979/Hammer_Toxic_Bowling_Ball.htm), Hammer Blue Vibe (https://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/3214/Hammer_Vibe_Bowling_Ball_-_Blue.htm), Brunswick Denny's Viz-a-Ball, Hammer Shirt, Hammer Towel (https://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/2513/Hammer_Loomed_Bowling_Towel.htm), Etonic Dress shoes (https://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/2792/Etonic_Mens_Stabilite_Dress_Shoes_-_Left_Handed.htm), Vise Patch (https://www.buddiesproshop.com/products/27-Finger_Grips__Slugs/0~99999/29-Vise/All/All/page.htm), Etonic Patch
Mike Scroggins - Roto Grip Horizon Solid bowling ball, Brunswick Denny's Viz-a-Ball, Roto Grip Shirt, Roto Grip Towel (https://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/2516/Roto-Grip_Bowling_Towel.htm), Storm Xtra Roll glove (https://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/2481/Storm_Xtra_Roll_Wrist_Support.htm), Vise Patch (https://www.buddiesproshop.com/products/27-Finger_Grips__Slugs/0~99999/29-Vise/All/All/page.htm), Dexter SST 6 LE bowling shoes (https://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/4256/Dexter_Mens_SST_6_LE_Bowling_Shoes_-_Left_Handed.htm)

[VmsTopGun]

Here's the link for the season....

https://www.buddiesproshop.com/54/What_were_they_using_2007-08_PBA_Season.html

[Spare Time Proshop]

As some of the other have said it was a Hammer Raw Hammer Toxic with all bowling balls that arent solid in color they willnt be two that look a like.......

[bubbiesdad]

It was a Vicious, had an orange pin.

[Spare Time Proshop]

bubbiesdad It was Not a Vicious...
This is what Billy Oatman used- Hammer Black Widow Solid bowling ball, Hammer Raw Hammer Toxic, Hammer Blue Vibe, Brunswick Denny's Viz-a-Ball, Hammer Shirt, Hammer Towel, Etonic Dress shoes, Vise Patch, Etonic Patch check out this web site.......https://www.buddiesproshop.com/54/What_were_they_using_2007-08_PBA_Season.html

[Thepainscoming]

It was a big blue pearl, its on the pic thats on brunswickinsiders.com

[Spare Time Proshop]

Thepainscoming FYI brunswickinsiders.com Says that Billy is a Hammer Man if you go to the PBA this week on brunswickinsiders.com they say he use HAMMER.....

[BubbaRay]

Ok this will settle what Bill O uses. And it was a Raw Hammer Toxic. But here is why Bill O uses Hammer. 3rd one down .


http://www.hammerbowling.com/staff/index.php

[Rowdy]

Guess how many Hammers are in Billy O's van? Bet you there's a BBP in there somewhere and it fell out and rolled itself into the lanes. All I know is it looks exactly like the BBP I got from Danny Wiseman.

[bigsexyhammer]

It may have looked like one, but you can be sure if Billy used one with the Hammer reps there , he would be told about it and it's a violation of his contract don't you think

Why would using a Hammer bowling ball...regardless of whether it's on the shelves right now or not...viotlate his contract. :confused:

[TenPinSniper]

Know when PA was on staff, he was allowed to use older balls or he did not seem to have issues... he traded a local proshop here a new unreleased ball for a the Original Vicious. The Ebonite-Hammer rep found it real interesting when my proshop guy called him asking why one of his customers bought this unreleased ball from another local proshop. (Lets just say it was made up to my proshop.)

Really don't think that Hammer cared...

What does it matter if Billy used a ball that was not in-production... Heck it could be an unreleased ball. Sure these guys already have used them.

***BTW, X-Outs can be because of coloration issues, which could be cool.***

[BubbaRay]

It wouldn't I mistake the post for saying he was using a Big B ball. My mistake.

[EIGHTBALL033]

:cool: IF YOU PUT BLUE AND YELLOW TOGETHER WHAT COLOR DO U GET OR CLOSE TO IT(GREEN) LOL,IT WAS BBP:D

[slap]

Thepainscoming FYI brunswickinsiders.com Says that Billy is a Hammer Man if you go to the PBA this week on brunswickinsiders.com they say he use HAMMER.....


Brunswickinsiders takes pictures of ALL BALLS USED ON THE SHOW, regardless of manufactor. It's safe to say the picture of the BBP on that site was the actual ball Billy O threw.

FYI, this season that site has been a gold mine of information!!! If you really want to understand what's going on during each tour stop, take some time and read the entire site. Even though it's a "Big B" site, the knowledge is universal.

That site should be an example for every ball rep on tour.

[Street Racer]

guys must i remind you... you are making a big fuss over nothing basicly?.... lol

[BradM]

guys must i remind you... you are making a big fuss over nothing basicly?.... lol

Blah blah blah voice of reason blah blah blah.

;)

[BubbaRay]

:D The mystery has now been solved. It was a Hammer.

[crony022]

:confused:

[crony022]

What was the yellow ball he switched to this past week on tv. :confused:

[idlehourlegend]

There was already a post about this in the PBA section of the forums and there was a big confusion and argument about it, and everyone thinks they know, but to be honest no one really knows, there was like 3 different answers, they were: a big blue pearl x-out, a viscious, and a toxic.

[BubbaRay]

Here's a dicussion about that ball, Take a look here ----------->


http://forums.hammerbowling.com/showthread.php?t=5609

[can-ham]

PBA has is listed as Big Blue Pearl.
http://www.pba.com/players/inthebag.asp

Buddies has it listed as a toxic.
https://www.buddiesproshop.com/54/What_were_they_using.htm#no9

You'd think the PBA would have it right...

[idlehourlegend]

It was not a toxic, there was no silver in it at all. It had like gold or yellow in it.

[Crusher279757]

I'm positive it was the Big Blue Pearl.

[bubbiesdad]

At first glance I thought it was a Vicious Part. as well but on closer study it was a BBP. If he would have just used 1 ball he would have done better. He was defiantly over thinking the whole time. He went back to the return once because of a bad feel and even had a "balk". He'd still beet me 90%(at least) of the time.


Our pro shop guy was talking about that "eeny meeny miiny moe?"
he talked himself out of the second game.

[bubbiesdad]

I'm positive it was the Big Blue Pearl.

I watched ESPN 360 replay. It definitely looks most like the one on brunswickinsiders.com. Why would he throw an x-out though?

[TenPinSniper]

It could have had top weight he was looking for, for a particular drill and reaction.

Who know what the ball reps have in their bag of tricks.

[Thepainscoming]

Maybe it was the only Big blue pearl they still had, because they dont have any more particles. Thtas why it could have been an x-out.

[Rowdy]

I own the exact same ball as Billy O's. It's a Big Blue Pearl. No doubt. End of story.
Now,Billy's been gone for a while. I belive the pressure of the moment got to him. He thought he was walking a tightrope and one small misstep and bye-bye TV show. He actually talked himself into a bad position that just kept snowballing on him. If it had happened during qualifing,he would have recovered. But on the tube with all of us and BG and the Hammer folks watching...meltdown. Bet it doesn't happen again though. Billy O is too tough for that.

[blistershurt]

i cant wait for him to be on TV again, he's fun to watch.

[ballman789]

according to the (in the bag) on the pba web sight it was a big blue pear even though it didn't look like one on my tv either

[Rowdy]

PBA.com has it as a Big Blue PEARL. There's a difference between the Pearl and a regular Big Blue. I own a BBP. Same as Billy O's. I would trust the PBA to be able to read on the sheet from the weight room what kind of ball it is.