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ravenhammer
01-07-2008, 12:55 PM
Well I should be getting my BWB drilled up today. I like the way my BW and BWP work together:
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with the BWP working well when the lanes break down and the BW is over hooking. I'd like the BWB to work similiar to the BW with more hook and angle. I bowl with above average revs and medium speed.

dw800seeker
01-07-2008, 01:22 PM
Based on way I bowl, I would say that your BW and BWP are drilled for hook and length.

I would recommend all purpose (earlier) or strong drilling to get variance from the other Black Widows. So, I would move pin down (and/or over) from where it is on BW and BWP.

If you have BWB drilled the same as the others you may find BW and BWB reacting very similarly. Unless you choose to make surface change on BW. You could polish BW and go BWB as strongest, then BWP and then BW polished as your weakest ball.

It really depends on conditions you intend to face. I like the BW all purpose drilling to start set and then go to longer balls later in shift when BW is hooking too early.

ravenhammer
01-07-2008, 02:36 PM
If you have BWB drilled the same as the others you may find BW and BWB reacting very similarly. Unless you choose to make surface change on BW. You could polish BW and go BWB as strongest, then BWP and then BW polished as your weakest ball.



I was thinking of actually sanding my BW if they were similar to encourage it to hook earlier.

dw800seeker
01-07-2008, 04:16 PM
I like the idea of sanding down the surface. So long as you play on heavy conditions now and then. Actually, my Hawgzilla is sanded under 1000 and as long as I keep my speed up I can use it in league. (Shot a 740 with it a couple of weeks ago right after Xmas:cool: ).

bluerrpilot
01-07-2008, 04:22 PM
I was thinking of actually sanding my BW if they were similar to encourage it to hook earlier.

Drilling them all the same and letting the surface dictate reaction is a pretty good idea.

idlehourlegend
01-07-2008, 05:16 PM
Drilling them all the same and letting the surface dictate reaction is a pretty good idea.

Yea I noticed that too and I like that idea also.

dw800seeker
01-07-2008, 06:55 PM
Yea I noticed that too and I like that idea also.

Does anyone do that? Or, perhaps better question: Who drills all their balls the same way?

I can see in a 5 ball arsenal having a couple of overlapping drillings and variance in cover or core only. But, every ball drilled the same and only varying polish vs. dull?

To me, you want to be able to say 1) here is my strong ball drilled strong, 2) Then my strong ball drilled long, 3) Then my strong ball drilled weak, 4) Then my Weak ball drilled weak for dry or shorter pattern. Of course, I am just a 200-210 house bowler (book average 212 at easy-ish house). But, I would like others take on this.:o

idlehourlegend
01-07-2008, 07:07 PM
I wouldnt do this on many balls but on two balls with the same core like these and with just a strong and weaker coverstock. You would have two totally different reacting balls because of the coverstock, the BWS is a lot stronger than the BWP oob and they react totally different. They compliment each other very well. Which is why Im getting a BWS soon.

BubbaRay
01-07-2008, 07:15 PM
I have drilled two different balls the same and they had different covers and cores. I had my NM and BWS drilled the same and they both have two different reactions. I did this to have variations of reaction with different equipment when the lane conditions call for it. But I do not drill all my stuf the same. I will change Pin to PAP , and MAss Bias positions.

gabriel94509
01-07-2008, 07:53 PM
I drilled my Anger and Toxic exactly the same, and i get two completely different reactions from them, yet they compliment eachother nicely. They actually work perfectly as a 1-2 setup for the leagues i bowl in.

bluerrpilot
01-07-2008, 11:59 PM
Does anyone do that? Or, perhaps better question: Who drills all their balls the same way?

I can see in a 5 ball arsenal having a couple of overlapping drillings and variance in cover or core only. But, every ball drilled the same and only varying polish vs. dull?

To me, you want to be able to say 1) here is my strong ball drilled strong, 2) Then my strong ball drilled long, 3) Then my strong ball drilled weak, 4) Then my Weak ball drilled weak for dry or shorter pattern. Of course, I am just a 200-210 house bowler (book average 212 at easy-ish house). But, I would like others take on this.:o


I wouldnt say ALL the same. But in the case of Ravens 3 different BW's, it could turn out very well. Each cover on those balls is way different from each other. And with the right prep, could cover just about any house shot he will come across.

BWB at 1000 - Early roll, early midlane read and strong backend
BW at 4000 - Later roll, later midlane and angular backend
BWP at 4000 polished - Very late roll, clean to the spot, angular

ravenhammer
01-08-2008, 06:22 PM
Well my house shot doesn't change that much. Different degrees of burn out and carry down is what I am fighting now. I plan to try to bowl some tourneys this year, and a Sport league in the summer but that will be then.

Also with the way balls last(or don't) it could just replace my BW in the bag altogether