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rehcuob
01-07-2008, 11:25 PM
have bowled at least 30 games with this thing, had it turned to 1000 abbralon, this ball is the biggest piece of junk i have ever owned a $200 anchor. Dont know which way to go any more but throwing my monark which is wore out. I have never been so disgusted with a ball. It works ok where I bought it on synthetic lanes but on the oily wooden lanes i bowl on its useless. Think Im all done with hammers.:mad:

JoshWithrow
01-07-2008, 11:28 PM
Do you have any video's of yourself bowling? Pictures of the ball?

You say it works fine on synthetic lanes but not wood? What is your maintenance schedule like? What does it involve?

Do you know what type of oil patterns were down on the lane when you weren't hitting with this ball?

There's got to be a reason that the ball is "dying" on you.

jeffy300
01-07-2008, 11:47 PM
obviously the drill pattern the pro shop used is not working for you, i bowl on wood lanes and guardian lanes and it is the best ball i have had until the bite came out now we will see what it can do ..........
try polishing back up and playing up the rail on wood lanes , you do not have to play the whole lane every night everyone........

bluerrpilot
01-08-2008, 12:47 AM
had it turned to 1000 abbralon It works ok where I bought it on synthetic lanes but on the oily wooden lanes i bowl on its useless.


Wood lanes have much more friction than synthetics. And since you have it at 1000 Abralon, its probably losing all its energy.

Mike_N_Nashville
01-08-2008, 10:01 AM
have bowled at least 30 games with this thing, had it turned to 1000 abbralon, this ball is the biggest piece of junk i have ever owned a $200 anchor. Dont know which way to go any more but throwing my monark which is wore out. I have never been so disgusted with a ball. It works ok where I bought it on synthetic lanes but on the oily wooden lanes i bowl on its useless. Think Im all done with hammers.:mad:

If it is 15 lbs are you interested in getting rid of it? :D

Mike

Stampy79
01-08-2008, 10:06 AM
Hey Blue, one thing I have noticed about wood houses in my area (Northern Ill) They tend to really juice up the middle a bunch ! I mean a whole big bunch so they dont break down as we all expect them to ! This could be part of the problem, but not sure how the ball is drilled or what the shot is like on the synthetic lanes either. One thing synthetic houses can do is NOT use much oil because it does not do as much damage to the lanes as a dry wood house does. There are a lot of variables in play here that we do not know about yet ! Hey rehcuob, where do you bowl up there in cheesehead land ?

Fatboy8
01-08-2008, 10:17 AM
I'd say the BWP is dying out on you, and has lost it's energy at the pins. It's a surprisinly strong ball, and with the wrong drilling/wrong condition, it won't work. I'd say take it back to 4000 abralon (factory), if that doesn't work, put some polish on it.

Again, it's going to depend on how's it drilled right now, as to what conditions it's suited for. Just my 2 cents.

Spare Time Proshop
01-08-2008, 10:24 PM
I'd say the BWP is dying out on you, and has lost it's energy at the pins. It's a surprisinly strong ball, and with the wrong drilling/wrong condition, it won't work. I'd say take it back to 4000 abralon (factory), if that doesn't work, put some polish on it.

Again, it's going to depend on how's it drilled right now, as to what conditions it's suited for. Just my 2 cents.

Fatboy8 I would say your right on.......Good call...

TenPinSniper
01-09-2008, 12:46 AM
I'd say the BWP is dying out on you, and has lost it's energy at the pins. It's a surprisinly strong ball, and with the wrong drilling/wrong condition, it won't work. I'd say take it back to 4000 abralon (factory), if that doesn't work, put some polish on it.

Again, it's going to depend on how's it drilled right now, as to what conditions it's suited for. Just my 2 cents.

This may not be a bad option, but we really dont know they type of lane conditions, style and layout on the ball.

BTW, the factory finish on the the ball is 4000 Abralon, with Factory Finish polish.

So if he is look for a strong reaction in the oil 2000 dull, 2000 Polished or 4000 dull. Would all provide a stronger reaction. Heck even 1000 Polished might work as well. Just something to delay the read ann save energy to give this some pop. I'd really suggest, talking to your local proshop.

Fatboy8 what part of Kansas are you from?

hbhammerhead
01-09-2008, 01:01 AM
that really sucks. i wouldn't turn away from hammer just yet though. it seems common that everyone who has a black widow pearl has had to really play around with it to get it to work right. i have mine at oob and the ball never finishes the way i want it too. i'm not going to give up on it yet. i'm probably going to take it down to 2000 and get it polished. seems to be a common fix. if you absolutly cannot get it to work for you, i would recommend the nmb at 1000 for med to oily and a cherry vibe for med. to light. those have been the only balls that i have been using of late. only ones i need right now.

TenPinSniper
01-09-2008, 01:25 AM
Also, I think the BWP is the squirtest of the BW line and very condition specific, then compared to the BWS... and it sounds like the BWB will be much better.

Just remember not every bowling is going to be good for everyone. Personally I don't like the BWP. But most of my other Hammers have been pretty good.

My Big Deal is was another ball that wasn't well suited to my game. The bad thing is that I got a High Rev very close to the same time, both the week they came out. So the Big Deal never really got much of a chance to shine. Personally when I get a good ball, it stays in my hand along time.

The Raw Hammer Pain was a little jumpy on my local house shot, but give it some oil and it really worked well. It would work okay if I hit it with a Grey Scuff Pad, toned down the jump... smoothed it out alot.

From what I have gathered the BWS was a much more versatile ball, from the sounds of it the Bite may be even better. But, right now I think I'll wait before I make that jump.

The Toxic is a really good ball, I've seen several people throw the ball, both good, bad and in between, this ball gives them all a good reaction.

#1_HawgZilla_Owner
01-09-2008, 01:33 AM
After seeing the BWP being rolled in some videos, I'm not really impressed with it. Watching in person the BWS last Winter during league, I was really impressed with it, I seen 3 or 4 different people play a different line and it worked. Seems like you need the right lane conditions with the BWP. Cant really say much about the Bite besides the video on Buddies Proshop. But from what I can tell it looks good. But then again nothing looks as good as my Hawg Zilla, LOL. :D

JoshWithrow
01-09-2008, 01:38 AM
Hawg,

To be fair, most polished balls are like that. "Less versatile" or "scenario specific". The polish takes a fair amount of things out of play.

For instance, why get a ball for heavy oil, that you want to begin rolling/tracking early, and then polish it? Exactly. You wouldn't. Why? The polish makes the ball slide thru the oil w/o reaction. Polished balls are meant to get thru the heads and that behavior really narrows your possibilities.

If you really want to open up the world of possibilities on that ball and see it be less pattern/condition specific, make it dull. Even 4000 dull and you'll notice it become alot more versatile.

#1_HawgZilla_Owner
01-09-2008, 01:46 AM
Hawg,

To be fair, most polished balls are like that. "Less versatile" or "scenario specific". The polish takes a fair amount of things out of play.

For instance, why get a ball for heavy oil, that you want to begin rolling/tracking early, and then polish it? Exactly. You wouldn't. Why? The polish makes the ball slide thru the oil w/o reaction. Polished balls are meant to get thru the heads and that behavior really narrows your possibilities.

If you really want to open up the world of possibilities on that ball and see it be less pattern/condition specific, make it dull. Even 4000 dull and you'll notice it become alot more versatile.

You're probably right, and I'm sure the ball would become more effective, but it just didnt seem like it was for me. I like my HZ and the BWS balls, they fit my style more.

rehcuob
01-11-2008, 04:05 PM
Ok
over my ranting and raving over this ball. I talked with pro shop owner and he told me he has a customer who has a bws who bowls on the synthetic lanes and complains it hooks to much. Both balls are about a month old so Im exchanging the pearl for a 16 lb BWS. had it plugged and drilled yesterday bowled with it first time last night 215 225 227 what a difference. Also going back to a 16 lb didnt bother at all and it drives hard. 3 for 3 on 10 pins to so that was a worry for nothing. Now i love my hammer again . But will never go back to the pearl to finicky. thanks to all who tried to help:D

Stampy79
01-11-2008, 04:12 PM
I wish most of you guys would just buy a pearl ball, have it drilled and then hit it real good with 2000 or 4000 abralon one time, They become much more usable and consistant. You may not have as many issues with them. And by the way, just to show its all about individuality, I had a BWS that wouldnt hook 1 board.

Rowdy
01-11-2008, 08:53 PM
If you can't throw a ball straight up the 2,3,4 or 5 board,don't buy a BWP. That's it. They're designed for certain conditions and don't take well to rolling one in a way it was not made for. Even dull,they still have to have room to work.