What equipment should I take Wednesday?

[Crusher279757]

I'm gonna bowl on the TOC pattern in a PBA challenge this Wednesday night. I wanna bring 6 including my spare ball. Just wondering what you guys think I should bring? I'm only gonna post the stuff that can be thrown right away because some stuff needs work done.

Cherry Vibe, OOB, drilled weak but the reaction has a strong backend.
Black Widow, 2000, drill for aggressive backend.
Doom, OOB, skid/flip layout.
Toxic, OOB, strong backend.
Anger, OOB, starts to roll early.
Fury, OOB, smooth arc.
Twisted Fury, OOB, all purpose drill I think.
Berry Razor, OOB, drilled for backend but moves in the midlane.

[bluerrpilot]

You have too much stuff that is skid/flip. You will need something that reads the lane much sooner than you think. If your bowling on Pro-Anvil lanes, they will be very slick compared to AMF's It will be very important that you control the breakpoint. You should also concentrate on getting the ball into a ROLL. If you can change the surfaces this is what I would recomend.

Anger -2000
Fury - 800
BW-2000
Toxic -500 lightly polished
Doom -2000
Cherry Vibe -1000

[Crusher279757]

You have too much stuff that is skid/flip. You will need something that reads the lane much sooner than you think. If your bowling on Pro-Anvil lanes, they will be very slick compared to AMF's It will be very important that you control the breakpoint. You should also concentrate on getting the ball into a ROLL. If you can change the surfaces this is what I would recomend.

Anger -2000
Fury - 800
BW-2000
Toxic -500 lightly polished
Doom -2000
Cherry Vibe -1000

Don't plan on changing the surfaces. Don't have a spinner and don't have much extra money to take them in to get them changed.

[MorganGrafixx]

Cherry Vibe, OOB, drilled weak but the reaction has a strong backend.
Black Widow, 2000, drill for aggressive backend.
Doom, OOB, skid/flip layout.
Toxic, OOB, strong backend.
Anger, OOB, starts to roll early.
Fury, OOB, smooth arc.
Twisted Fury, OOB, all purpose drill I think.
Berry Razor, OOB, drilled for backend but moves in the midlane.

Man...I wish I had that kind of selection. I can't help you on the selection. I just thought that no matter what you go with, you will be doing a whole lot better than me. I've got a BWP, Blue Fabal and my plastic spare ball. Not much to choose from. LOL!

[Crusher279757]

Man...I wish I had that kind of selection. I can't help you on the selection. I just thought that no matter what you go with, you will be doing a whole lot better than me. I've got a BWP, Blue Fabal and my plastic spare ball. Not much to choose from. LOL!

I have a lot more than that. There are quite a few I didn't list because I need to put slugs and others need to be plugged and redrilled.

[idlehourlegend]

I have a lot more than that. There are quite a few I didn't list because I need to put slugs and others need to be plugged and redrilled.

It should have looked like this.:D

[JoshWithrow]

It should have looked like this.:D

lol

have my manbabies

[agroves]

Which TOC pattern? This years was NOT 50ft. Last years was 50ft. If you are bowling on last years, something that is rolly and reads early. Plan on playing em way in and keeping your breakpoint way in.

I bowled on that 50' pattern once. I was a ten pin machine. My normal ball speed is around 20 in the heads. Figure in that the ball never encountered enough friction to slow it down and I was probably faster at the deck. I shot 10 pin after 10 pin.

Andrew

[BubbaRay]

Cherry Vibe, OOB, drilled weak but the reaction has a strong backend.
Black Widow, 2000, drill for aggressive backend.
Doom, OOB, skid/flip layout.
Toxic, OOB, strong backend.
Anger, OOB

[Rowdy]

He's gonna take six,not five Bubba.

Go with Bubba's list and add the whichever Fury is your money ball, Crusher. Good Luck on the skating rink. Remember, speed is everything and lay the ball down right at the line.

[Crusher279757]

He's gonna take six,not five Bubba.

Go with Bubba's list and add the whichever Fury is your money ball, Crusher. Good Luck on the skating rink. Remember, speed is everything and lay the ball down right at the line.


I said 6 INCLUDING my spare ball. So all he had to give me was five.

And I'm pretty sure it's the pattern from this year.

[Rowdy]

Oops. My bad. Well,take six plus the spare ball. I do.

[slap]

Don't plan on changing the surfaces. Don't have a spinner and don't have much extra money to take them in to get them changed.

insert reason for owing a spinner here.

[Sparehater]

I say, both fury's, anger, bw, toxic. That should be good for both patterns.

[bluerrpilot]

Which TOC pattern? This years was NOT 50ft. Last years was 50ft.

What makes you think this years pattern was not 50'. I can positively assure you that it was.

[Sparehater]

What makes you think this years pattern was not 50'. I can positively assure you that it was.
Blue, u can tell by where the balls were breaking, they we're breaking very early for a 50 foot pattern.

[southpaw14]

The TOC pattern was still the 50' pattern. It was just very well managed so it allowed for more types of games to do well there.

http://pba.com/resources/oilpatterns/laneconditions.asp?ID=13

[agroves]

I still do not believe that pattern was 50ft. Did you see the video of Randy during qualifying? Playing 15 to 5 on 50 ft....PAHLEEZE. Last year Tommy was rotating the shite out of it playing em very tight. I know lane surface makes a difference, but not that big of a difference.

Andrew

[agroves]

http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=186545&ForumID=86&CategoryID=5

Some unsubstantiated info in that thread.

Ric Hamlin, Bwick rep:

"It was 39ft. and lower volume. They tried to make it more of a multi angle type pattern to allow the non-exempt guys to compete. If they had put out the 50ft version, the higher rev guys would have run them over, as well as the mutation of the pattern, would have literally embarrassed the non-exempt guys. The biggest contributor of the older guys not making it farther was fatigue and age.
It was cool seeing Steve Cook running them out, as well as a few of the other guys."

[Rowdy]

After looking at the pattern I can see where both numbers COULD be right. But it's a 50ft pattern as far as I'm concerned.

[agroves]

After looking at the pattern I can see where both numbers COULD be right. But it's a 50ft pattern as far as I'm concerned.

http://www.bowl.com/Downloads/pdf/SportBowling/tournamentoil/0708TOC.pdf

[Rowdy]

Stoopid me. I looked at the pattern on pba.com. They have it at 50ft total, 39ft of "real" oil.

[bluerrpilot]

Pattern length has nothing to do with oil volume. It also does not have anything to do with forward or reverse application and/or buff of the oil. Typiclly, the TOC pattern is 50' but the oil volume is not that heavy. You also did not see the fact they had aprrox. 30 minutes of bowling on those lanes prior to the tv lights comming on.

I have spoken to several players that bowled on those lanes last weekend. And I take there word for it.