homemade ball spinners

[yotamonster]

anybody here ever make one or know someone that did?

[Rowdy]

It was a topic of discussion a while back. A few guys attempted to make a spinner,but in the end we all agreed it was easier and cheaper in the long run to just buy the spinner.

[yotamonster]

thats what i was wondering. if it would be worth it or not.

[Cobalt]

Yeah, its better to just break down and buy one. If you were to buy the parts by themselves, the motor alone would cost too much.

[hbhammerhead]

ya i'm just going to get the vertex 1/2 hp one from buddies. $230 and i'll be able to do my own work...sweet deal.

[Cobalt]

It really pays to have your own, I'd buy one for my house, but it would be pointless since the Pro shop I run has one already :D

Don't forget to grab the 180-4000 grit abralon pads and some EB factory finish polish while your at it!

[Steve1591]

Ive been thinking of grabbing one myself..but i dont see any sense in it, as i can just use the one at the local shop :rolleyes:

[hbhammerhead]

well you're suppose to go over your ball every 30 games with the abralon pads to keep them working good. i try to get my vibe polished every two weeks at my pro shop. it costs $5, but every two weeks adds up. the ball spinner will pay for itself in no time, especially the vertex. i really think that every bowler should have one. plus if you need to make a last minute adjustment you'll be able to. rowdy said that the vertex spinner that buddies sells is small enough to bring with you to a tournament.

[uberamd]

$5 every two weeks, thats 24 times a year if you do it every 2 weeks, $120 a year. But, every 2 weeks seems overboard, and it seems very expensive for a person to get. $5 to get it done every now and then seems more practical. Just my opinion.

[hbhammerhead]

well i run into a lot of dry conditions and the only way i can keep my vibe from over hooking is by keeping it polished like that. it really depends on what i run into. for the last several months its been pretty dry, so every two weeks i need to polish it. maybe for some people it's different but that's what works for me.

[uberamd]

So does that make the ball 'smaller' each time you do it or does it more rough it up? Like, can you put a ball in a spinner with Abralon pads X times before it is no longer a legal ball, etc?

[hbhammerhead]

i'm sure it does, but i don't know for sure. i just know that jeff ussery himself recommended it on the ebonite website. 30 games going over it with the abralon and every 60 games full resurface.

[Stampy79]

it would take you a long time sanding to make a ball illegal with abralon pads and a ball spinner

[Cobalt]

it would take you a long time sanding to make a ball illegal with abralon pads and a ball spinner
unless its with the 180 grit :p

But that is true, your chances of making it illegally small is very slim. Also, "refinishing" is the term that should be used here, because "resurfacing" actually takes down the coverstock to expose a completely untouched and even surface. This is usually only done when the ball is really torn up.
Refinishing is when you use the Abralon pads to maintain the surface, or tweak it to your likings. It hardly takes off any ball material.

[hbhammerhead]

unless its with the 180 grit :p

But that is true, your chances of making it illegally small is very slim. Also, "refinishing" is the term that should be used here, because "resurfacing" actually takes down the coverstock to expose a completely untouched and even surface. This is usually only done when the ball is really torn up.
Refinishing is when you use the Abralon pads to maintain the surface, or tweak it to your likings. It hardly takes off any ball material.

well on the ebonite site he used the word resurface. jeff ussery said that every 30 games sand the ball with the abralon discs and every 60 games resurface. i don't know i'm just going on what he said.

[uberamd]

well on the ebonite site he used the word resurface. jeff ussery said that every 30 games sand the ball with the abralon discs and every 60 games resurface. i don't know i'm just going on what he said.

He probably also has 10 of the same balls drilled up and can cycle through them.

[hbhammerhead]

it's a video directed toward the customer so i'm assuming that he means for a single ball. like i said, i'm just going by what he stated in the ebonite video.

it's a coverstock maintenance instruction video. check it out. click on coverstock maintenance on the menu to the right.

http://www.ebonite.com/products/detail_compnvs.php

[Cobalt]

well on the ebonite site he used the word resurface. jeff ussery said that every 30 games sand the ball with the abralon discs and every 60 games resurface. i don't know i'm just going on what he said.

Good point, I didn't even realize that. sanding the ball every 30 games would be the refinishing part and every 60 would be resurfacing.

[yotamonster]

either way i want a ball spinner. im the type that like to spend now and save latter. plus the guy that runs the local pro shop is hard to get in touch with.

[indtpc]

If you're going to refinish the surface what grit abralon would you start with?
If you want 4000 finished would you just hit the ball with a 4000 pad or start with a lower pad?

[can-ham]

$5 every two weeks, thats 24 times a year if you do it every 2 weeks, $120 a year. But, every 2 weeks seems overboard, and it seems very expensive for a person to get. $5 to get it done every now and then seems more practical. Just my opinion.

$5 would be cheep. It's $20 for an adjustment and $30 for a resurface. My guy gives me deal of $10 and $20 cause I play with my covers all the time.

But a spinner is in the sites with the weak USD...

[Rowdy]

well on the ebonite site he used the word resurface. jeff ussery said that every 30 games sand the ball with the abralon discs and every 60 games resurface. i don't know i'm just going on what he said.

Jeff is also in the business of selling said Abralon pads to sand and resurface balls. Brian Graham's thought was to wait until the ball showed signs it needed to have work done on it. Brian understood the economic reality that all of us have to work within.

[Cobalt]

Jeff is also in the business of selling said Abralon pads to sand and resurface balls.

Jeff is also extremely smart when it comes down to bowling... in all aspects. Plus, Abralon pads last a long time and you can use them over and over again. They are a cloth like material, unlike sandpaper that wears out very fast.

[Cobalt]

If you're going to refinish the surface what grit abralon would you start with?
If you want 4000 finished would you just hit the ball with a 4000 pad or start with a lower pad?

It depends on the surface that the ball is already at. If you have a black widow at 4000 grit, its usually best to start one level below that (2000) and then do a 4000.

its best to go in the following order when sanding:
180
360
500
1000
2000
4000

for a full resurface, you would start at 180 and work your way up. For a refinish, it would be best to do the level below what you want, then step it up to the final grit.

Never jump levels, from 360 to 1000 for example.

[hbhammerhead]

Jeff is also in the business of selling said Abralon pads to sand and resurface balls. Brian Graham's thought was to wait until the ball showed signs it needed to have work done on it. Brian understood the economic reality that all of us have to work within.

haha that's true, but i'm going to give the guy the benefit of the doubt since he is the head of hammer now. how often do you refinish/resurface?

[indtpc]

Thanks Cobalt,
I have a BWS and have been looking for suggestions as to maintanence schedule, products, etc. you guys have been pretty helpful.

[Cobalt]

Thanks Cobalt,
I have a BWS and have been looking for suggestions as to maintanence schedule, products, etc. you guys have been pretty helpful.

I'm just here to help. I was trained by Jeff himself, I love bowling and I want to help others out.

As far as the maintenance on the BWS, the best thing to do is clean it right after you finish using it. The coverstock sucks up oil, using Power House Energizer or Clean n' Dull cleaner right after will help to pull some oil out thats near the surface still. It will really help reduce how often you need to bath/heat the ball to get oil out.