View Full Version : Hope this is what we have to look forward to!!!
kurmie
02-09-2008, 03:49 PM
I know it isn't a Hammer, but its close enough. Since ebonite is the parent company, I hope the next hammer line hits like the new Complete NV. The kid in the video doesn't have a high rev rate, and deffinately doesn't have blazing ball speed, and that ball just kills. My widow hits like that if I'm in the 17-17.5 range. Could be deseving though since it is just a video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aOEway4btk
idlehourlegend
02-09-2008, 04:18 PM
Yea I watched this video early today, the kid has no clue where hes putting it and he has like a 15 board area to miss, actually like 18 cause the one goes jersey and hits like a pocket hit. The ball leave too many 8 and 9s for my taste, that would get frustrating, you dont see it in the video but a lot of people are complaining about that already.
Steve1591
02-09-2008, 04:48 PM
ive heard a lot of complaints about that ball..
and as far as that video goes..hmm, turns 90 degrees at the line and its his left arm swinging..but yet he is a righty..odd :rolleyes:
Rowdy
02-10-2008, 12:28 AM
I hope it AIN'T what we have to look forward to. Why go backwards?
Crusher279757
02-10-2008, 12:30 AM
I am kinda worried that the Complete NV is gonna be like the NVS where it will leave 8 and 9 pins a bit.
Cobalt
02-10-2008, 12:35 AM
I've heard complaints about it, but I still got one and it rips the lanes apart and buries the pins. Those who don't like it are usually the ones who expect it to be able to throw it like an older ball, but can't because of its core design.
Its like getting the Total NV and the NVS. Much different reactions, you can't compare them. My NVS and Complete NV handle different areas of the lane, you can't find a good common spot for both.
As for the video, I agree that its a bad example, the kid really doesn't know what hes doing, he has a new ball and hes throwing on a very forgiving oil pattern.
ek11sx
02-10-2008, 12:40 AM
an 8 and a 9 pin cost with a BWP me a 280 today lol, its still better than an ebonite imo
Cobalt
02-10-2008, 12:55 AM
an 8 and a 9 pin cost with a BWP me a 280 today lol, its still better than an ebonite imo
Even though Ebonite and Hammer are made in the same factory with the same chemicals?
Can't deny that Hammer balls are awesome as hell though!
Rowdy
02-11-2008, 12:40 PM
Even though Ebonite and Hammer are made in the same factory with the same chemicals?
Can't deny that Hammer balls are awesome as hell though!
Not the same core though. Ours are better than theirs.
Cobalt
02-11-2008, 04:17 PM
Not the same core though. Ours are better than theirs.
Yes, the cores are different, but this is where a lot of people get confused on core differences. The cores are designed to do different things, not just flare-and-hook. If you throw a black widow bite against the complete NV, you throw different lines and get different angles, but they both hit hard and strong. I love my hammers and NV's, and which one comes out of the bag depends on the oil.
BubbaRay
02-11-2008, 04:34 PM
It is all about core and coverstock matching. You could have a great core but if the coverstock doesn't match the physics of the ball, it's not going to be a great ball. In order to have a great ball you need the core to match the cover stock to get that desired reaction . Then everything else is just a plus .
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