279 with my BWB :mad: (superglue going in bag)

[ravenhammer]

I do mean with my BWB only as an insert came out of my spare ball last shot of practice. 8/ 9/ +10 in a row.
On a similar topic I am still not happy with my Bite. It still has no snap, and not a lot of hook. I was looking to get a ball after the bite to accomplish this but wanted something like the cherry vibe($).

[uberamd]

Is it drilled correctly for how you throw it?

[blistershurt]

could you get us a visual to help us out here?

[ravenhammer]

pics and info are in this thread. (http://forums.hammerbowling.com/showthread.php?p=53361#post53361)
but yes I drilled it up like my BW assuming it would hook more at about the same spot down lane.

[blistershurt]

Where is the weight hole in correlation to your PAP? Is your weight hole outside or inside of the VAL?

[bluerrpilot]

pics and info are in this thread. (http://forums.hammerbowling.com/showthread.php?p=53361#post53361)
but yes I drilled it up like my BW assuming it would hook more at about the same spot down lane.

In OOB my solid and bite drilled identical and the bite is a foot or two sooner than the solid. Right now its at 2000 compared to the solid at 4000 and its even sooner than that.

http://members.cox.net/bluerrpilot/BW.JPG
http://members.cox.net/bluerrpilot/BWB.JPG

[JaraTo]

I'm having the same issues right now but my layout different for bite than my solid. Thinking of changing my finish and/or layout to a strong layout

Also, I'd rather have that 279 than my 9- followed by striking out and striking in the first frame of the next game like I once did.

[TRIO1STL]

The Bite reads the lane earlier than the original. Looking at the pictures in the other thread, the mb is closer to the val which is going to give you more mid lane roll and a heavier arc to the pocket. The ball is burning up.

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[Stampy79]

Yea, take it back to 4000 and it will snap harder

[Nor Cal Bowler]

so is it recommend that if you have one of the widows drilled a certain way, you should have the other(s) drilled the same way?

[idlehourlegend]

so is it recommend that if you have one of the widows drilled a certain way, you should have the other(s) drilled the same way?

If you have them all or even just one with the BWP too, and they are drilled identical they compliment each other very well.

[JaraTo]

I'm in the process of trying to figure that out myself. I figured it was best to stick with what you know at first for at least the second one. Then it's much easier to know what type of reaction to expect if you have to switch mid game. For instance you can switch from a solid to a pearl late during league play once you get the carrydown. Then you will probably still play the same strike line without much adjustment. The solid will start to break too early so you just switch to the pearl which has more length. Less of a guessing game.

[Nor Cal Bowler]

I'm in the process of trying to figure that out myself. I figured it was best to stick with what you know at first for at least the second one. Then it's much easier to know what type of reaction to expect if you have to switch mid game. For instance you can switch from a solid to a pearl late during league play once you get the carrydown. Then you will probably still play the same strike line without much adjustment. The solid will start to break too early so you just switch to the pearl which has more length. Less of a guessing game.

so the pearl has more/ should have more length then the solid?

[idlehourlegend]

so the pearl has more/ should have more length then the solid?

Definately does, more length and less snap pn the backend.

[Nor Cal Bowler]

Definately does, more length and less snap pn the backend.

so i would be better off starting off with the solid, then going to the pearl?

[ravenhammer]

For instance you can switch from a solid to a pearl late during league play once you get the carrydown.

You mean burnout not carrydown. Carrydown requires a ball that is less skid/flip to finish hard in the pocket. Usually something that goes straighter works well as you don't want to over hook the front part of the lane.

[ravenhammer]

The ball is burning up.



So back to polishing it up a little, which was my first idea.
Though I just talked to another friend and I am going to get a second opinion from his pro shop op.

[idlehourlegend]

so i would be better off starting off with the solid, then going to the pearl?

Yep. Thats usually what to do, but it depends on how they breakdown.

[JaraTo]

Burnout caused by carrydown of the oil? I know what burnout is but isn't carrydown when the oils starts to move away from the heads which would cause burnout.

[Nor Cal Bowler]

would that explain why i start off with my gamebreaker in practice for 3 games, then the next 3 with my pearl the scores go higher?

[uberamd]

Well pearlized balls are designed to have more length, so as the lanes breaks down if you keep the same line but switch to a pearl ball it will likely improve your score if it hits the pocket while your other balls are over hooking.

[Nor Cal Bowler]

now what if i had the bws, bwp, and the bwb? would that all depend on how oily the lanes are?

[ravenhammer]

Burnout caused by carrydown of the oil? I know what burnout is but isn't carrydown when the oils starts to move away from the heads which would cause burnout.

Burnout and carry down are two separate(though often related). Plastic balls push the oil down the lane while reactive balls absorb the oil(also push a little) creating dry lines as it goes through the oil. That is why on perfect conditions you can keep slowly moving left keeping your ball in the oil while still hitting the dry line down the lane.

[JaraTo]

I'm a goofball, but I totally understand what you're saying. I meant to say when the lanes break down not carry down. What I meant in my head was right but I got to learn what carry down is because of my mistake.

On that note, I play in a league where alot of maybe 60% of the players use strictly plastic balls. So when/if my lanes get the carry down affect, how would I recognize it and does that mean I should switch to a ball with an earlier roll?

(Sorry not trying to steal your thread)

[Rowdy]

Well pearlized balls are designed to have more length, so as the lanes breaks down if you keep the same line but switch to a pearl ball it will likely improve your score if it hits the pocket while your other balls are over hooking.

Nice theory. It doesn't work that way in real life. The pearl ball still needs oil to work. If you chunk it down the same dried out line as the solid,the pearl will miss the pocket.

[JaraTo]

It was phrased as "likely".... same layout, your still not gonna come back as far as the solid dry line or not if you play them on the same line at the beginning or at the end of a session.

[Rowdy]

Okay....it's LIKELY that you will LIKELY be royally pissed when your pearl ball LIKELY won't score worth a damn if you stay on the same LIKELY line. How's that????

[JaraTo]

Okay....it's LIKELY that you will LIKELY be royally pissed when your pearl ball LIKELY won't score worth a damn if you stay on the same LIKELY line. How's that????

Someone needs a hug

[uberamd]

Nice theory. It doesn't work that way in real life. The pearl ball still needs oil to work. If you chunk it down the same dried out line as the solid,the pearl will miss the pocket.

In my experience, it does. I see people switch to pearlized balls once their BWS, or heavy hooking ball starts to over hook; and they hit the pocket with the pearl ball. They may need to move a bit, but not a lot.

[ravenhammer]

I have my BWP drilled slightly weaker than my BW and I switch to it when I run out of room moving left and still go high. I can throw the same line and hit flush, or even move right 1 or 2 boards.

[Rowdy]

In my experience, it does. I see people switch to pearlized balls once their BWS, or heavy hooking ball starts to over hook; and they hit the pocket with the pearl ball. They may need to move a bit, but not a lot.

Oh no,the theory was to stay on the SAME line and switch to the pearl ball. Moving blows the theory out of the water.

[Rowdy]

Someone needs a hug

I do. It's so lonely out here. Hold me.