Focussig issue

[Curacao_Dejavu]

How do you keep focus 3 hours long.
We play 4 games in my league.
My first game is very relaxed (maybe too much) , it's +- at the 7/8 frame that I get into my grove.
The second game , I continue to be able to focus and usually I do a decent game.
In the middle of the 3th my mind start to wander off, my arms gets tend to tired.
I simply can not stay focus 3 hours long,
it does happen at other environments too, so it's not only applicable to bowling. But in general I would like to improve this issue.

Leopold

[rrwatson]

Same problem here during warmups (usually only 3-4 practice balls). Since bowling in a points league against the other teams top average I have to sorta get it in gear quick or get buried. I think a pre set routine helps out- having one or two things in the routine which you know works which in my case ends up relaxing me. With all the things in bowling which can go wrong its hard to concentrate of everything you need to do to throw the perfect ball everytime-so im down to one or two and the fire it. Good luck aye.

[Etonix]

Some minor lifting here and there will increase arm stamina, also more practice, if the case is you only bowl your league night. Also try some stretching before you get to your warm up balls.

[Curacao_Dejavu]

Some minor lifting here and there will increase arm stamina, also more practice, if the case is you only bowl your league night. Also try some stretching before you get to your warm up balls.

I started to go to a gym last month.
and I am noticing some difference, my arm stamina is improving,
but now I am throwing harder too 23-26 mph.

LEOPOLD

[Etonix]

Wow, there is no reason to throw the ball that hard, somewhere between 15-19 mph is ideal. You dont need to throw it that fast.

[Rowdy]

First off,stop throwing the ball that damn hard. No wonder your arm gets tired.

As far as the focus thing, no one is asking you to focus for three hours straight. You only have to focus for a minute at a time. Since you mention that it happens at other times,you probably have one of those alphabet soup attention disorders. ADD,ADHD,AD whatever,you get the idea. You could try some of the over the counter stuff they have at the drug store or go see your Doc and get him to prescribe something for it.

[can-ham]

I agree with Rowdy, you don't need to focus for three hours strait.

Now you do have to remember where you played each lane last and if your line is working. But you can relax and have fun just keep an eye on how others are playing the game.

I like to add an intentional "focus" to my pre-shot routine after I position my feet on the approach and put my ball in the starting position this is when I take a deep breath and focus in on my mark. So really its only 5 seconds during my swing where I really focus on my mark. So if I never strike that's only 5s x 21 (shots strike ball, spare ball and a fill ball in the 10th) x 4 games = 420 s = 7 minutes of focus max. Probably don't need drugs for that but you will need to turn it in and off...

[Rowdy]

I focus right up to the point of pulling the trigger. Get up,line up and then turn the brain off. The body knows what to do. Just roll the ball.

[pipes]

I don't even pay much attention to much except what line guys are bowling and the results but I don't make work of it UNTIL I get up to bowl ! I just relax then I get in some kina dang trance thing and I really don't even here whats going on around me all I here is a low buzz sound I also don't take all day setting up IMHO taking a LOT a time to go once you pick up the ball and get set causes LOTS a folks problems IN LOTS a sports !Once I get myself relaxed and focused at the line I go and that only takes a few seconds for me.Find a routine and srick to it is my advice .

Sounds like the focus thing is your tense even when your not up . And you must relax befor your you start your approach IMO anyway

This trance focus thing I do is strong for me I sometimes don't know I rolled the ball kina hard to explain .

[rrwatson]

Dont you just love those guys who stand there forever on the lane, wiping down their ball, staring at something out on the alley then throw the heck out it (as hard as they can pitch it) and do the same routine everytime. One bowler in league takes at least 2 minutes on the lane every single time concentrating on his mark and hes bowled for years. Geeezzee after 5 seconds on the lane Im ready for a nap. Im working on a couple of things so I want to make sure those things are correct, then block everything else out-Set it and fire it, keeping it simple aye.

[HCSBowler267643]

I do not know if this tip was previously said......

When i am on the lanes open bowling, i specifically ask for a lane around people so i can be distracted,then i will take my i pod out for the first 5 frames and crank a song like "Click, click,pull"...or something like that. then for the remaining frames i will take the ipod off and play the song in my mind......

when at a tournament obviously you have to turn them off, but who says you cant listen to it before bowling or during practice........

[Rowdy]

Dont you just love those guys who stand there forever on the lane, wiping down their ball, staring at something out on the alley then throw the heck out it (as hard as they can pitch it) and do the same routine everytime. One bowler in league takes at least 2 minutes on the lane every single time concentrating on his mark and hes bowled for years. Geeezzee after 5 seconds on the lane Im ready for a nap. Im working on a couple of things so I want to make sure those things are correct, then block everything else out-Set it and fire it, keeping it simple aye.

Elect me as head of the USBC and as my second act in office I'll make a Rule that will let you choke the ever living snot out of the guy for holding things up. We'll slap him with a 25 pin per game penalty,too. How's that???

My first act??? Sport shots. Duh.

[can-ham]

http://www.centaurproducts.com/images/bbscore_four.jpg


I think a pres hot routine is very important, but it should be with in a the 20 second shot clock...

[idlehourlegend]

Elect me as head of the USBC and as my second act in office I'll make a Rule that will let you choke the ever living snot out of the guy for holding things up. We'll slap him with a 25 pin per game penalty,too. How's that???

My first act??? Sport shots. Duh.

Got my vote.

[Rowdy]

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I think a pres hot routine is very important, but it should be with in a the 20 second shot clock...

Nope. As soon as two bowlers agree that the guy is up there too long they just call him back and give him a zero for that ball. Then bust him for 25 pins off the final score. That'll speed things up.

Twenty seconds to start moving??? Come on,thats way too long. From the time your first foot touches the approach it shouldn't take any longer than 10 seconds for you to pull the trigger. And I'm being very generous here. Sometimes you can overthink something.

[rrwatson]

Agree completely 10 seconds is more than sufficent, the longer you wait the greater the opportunity to overthink or start squeezing that 16lb thing in your hand.

[can-ham]

Twenty seconds to start moving??? Come on,thats way too long. From the time your first foot touches the approach it shouldn't take any longer than 10 seconds for you to pull the trigger. And I'm being very generous here. Sometimes you can overthink something.


I'm thinking like T.V. their shot clock starts as soon as the other guy steps off the approach. You've got 20 seconds to wipe your ball and step up.

Actually my Best friend who rolls on my team takes a very long time. It used to bug the crap out of me but three year later you get used to it. However it sure limits your warm up!

[Thepainscoming]

Actually Can, the pba actually does it from right when your ball comes out of the return.

[Rowdy]

Actually Can, the pba actually does it from right when your ball comes out of the return.

They do,but the clock kinda goes out the window when you're up there in the 10th needing three strikes to win.

And I would extend the same courtesy to any league bowler who was shooting for a 300,700,800 or for the match. I ain't gonna say anything right about then.

Besides,I figure the more time someone takes the better the chance is that they will choke on the shot.

[idlehourlegend]

They do,but the clock kinda goes out the window when you're up there in the 10th needing three strikes to win.

And I would extend the same courtesy to any league bowler who was shooting for a 300,700,800 or for the match. I ain't gonna say anything right about then.

Besides,I figure the more time someone takes the better the chance is that they will choke on the shot.

Yea I remember reading something PDW said about taking time on the approach, said the more time you take the more things that go through your head and the more problems you get yourself into. Thats why he goes so fast when hes on tv, just gets everything set and goes. I take about 6-7seconds maybe, depending on where Im playing and how comfortable I am, but when I really need a strike or if Im going for a big game I go up get everything set and go it usually work, always helps when you take the brain out of the equation.

[jackhammer]

I've taken some lessons from a gold coach and that was one thing that he drilled into me. It wasn't that I spendt alot of time up there but its to keep the mind off the approach. This way you focus on your form and not your adjustments.

Thats one thing I've learned to watch from the better bowlers I bowl with. When they have a possible 300 on the line they throw just like they always do. Nervous as hell but once they get on the approach its go.

One thing I read by Parker Bohn was that " Pressure is a reward". After all you do bad you don't get all nervous.

[Curacao_Dejavu]

Elect me as head of the USBC and as my second act in office I'll make a Rule that will let you choke the ever living snot out of the guy for holding things up. We'll slap him with a 25 pin per game penalty,too. How's that???

My first act??? Sport shots. Duh.

My preshot routine includes, inhaling exhaling 2-3 times before I start my approach. That's how I am able to relax, before the throw. I Can not go rush and throw , that just not work for me.

About the speed, The only way I found to lower the speed down to 22 mph is by lowering the ball position, If I move the half circle slower, I throw a straight , dead ball. I have not been able to correct that yet.

Any suggestions at what I should do to fix that ?

Leopold

[JaraTo]

:cool: Rowdy's comment was NOT directed at you.

[idlehourlegend]

My preshot routine includes, inhaling exhaling 2-3 times before I start my approach. That's how I am able to relax, before the throw. I Can not go rush and throw , that just not work for me.

About the speed, The only way I found to lower the speed down to 22 mph is by lowering the ball position, If I move the half circle slower, I throw a straight , dead ball. I have not been able to correct that yet.

Any suggestions at what I should do to fix that ?

Leopold

Yea stop throwing 22 mph and expecting the ball to move, I would either get a coach or go to your pro shop and have them evaluate your game and see what you should change/do both with your game and equipment to get everything going good.

[Curacao_Dejavu]

I know there is a timelimit that you have to comply with once you are on the approach. I believe it's 20-25 sec, ( i read it somewhere) I tried to do that to when I started last year. I simply need more that. Maybe it will go away in the future when I have more exerience.
In my league there is a guy that within 10 secs he's on and off the board again. I am one of the slowest player on the whole approach in my league.
I do observe all players at what they do, and pickup some things from them.i just commented that MY routine includes the 2-3 time inhale and exhale thing, and that takes obviously longer that someone that does his routine in 10 secs.

Leopold

[slap]

IMO...your routine is fine, but you're doing it in wrong location. On the approach you should set your body, focus on your target and GO!
Those other things that should be done before you step on the approach. At the ball return for instance...

[Curacao_Dejavu]

thanks,
will try that during on monday.

Leopold

[Curacao_Dejavu]

Tried yesterday,
I may have shaved 1-2 sec from the approach,
But I have a feeling I was rushing things a bit yesterday.
total score was above average anyway.

Leopold

[Curacao_Dejavu]

First off,stop throwing the ball that damn hard. No wonder your arm gets tired.
.

Any recomendations on how to throw slower.
yesterday for example I felt it in my shoulder that I was throwing, but normally I dont feel it, it feels normally like smooth motion.

Leopold

[JaraTo]

Somehow, someway... you have got to get us some video of you bowling because I can't begin to fathom what's going on. Sound like a long pause, then a sprint to the line like a lion stalking it's prey then suddenly accelerating full speed after it.

[can-ham]

Best way to slow it down and get it to move better is to switch to two hands!

I'm a single handed thrower, and my back is too F'ed from Jumping off cliffs on my snowboards in my younger days. But like Walter-Wray I've messed around with it a few times and if your rev challenged it is a huge difference. But like any pioneer you will be subject to ridicule as some on this forum have experienced...

Just don't use this guys forum:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOij1prDhmI

[idlehourlegend]

Best way to slow it down and get it to move better is to switch to two hands!

I'm a single handed thrower, and my back is too F'ed from Jumping off cliffs on my snowboards in my younger days. But like Walter-Wray I've messed around with it a few times and if your rev challenged it is a huge difference. But like any pioneer you will be subject to ridicule as some on this forum have experienced...

Just don't use this guys forum:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOij1prDhmI

yea I agree but its not as easy as it sounds honestly, getting the revs is easy controlling them and learning when to use them and when not to and using that versatility to your advantage is the big part of it and it takes a lot of practice and a lot of learning. If you have any questions about it or anything feel free to PM me or ask questions on here, as most of you know (maybe not the new guys like this one) I throw like that. Also you could do as I still do, and watch Videos of Jason Belmonte and Osku Palermaa on youtube and study there form both of them are very smooth. It takes a long time to learn but has a lot of advantages. Most of the guys I've seen try it, it isn't pretty at all and they usually wind up hurting themselves in some way, most of them just have a hard time clearing their hips out of the way, have to be pretty flexible.

[Curacao_Dejavu]

:)

I have heard, read , and seen about the two handed throws.
I am not going to do that.
I actually throw a backup ball.

We were on a small island with 1 bowling alley, there is not much coaching on the island etc. I will talk with the pro shop owner, he seems very capable and did help me with drilling a correct layout for me etc, but he's of the island for a couple of weeks.

So I appreciate all the help I can get from you guys.
I will see what I can do with pictures and videos etc.and post it here.

regards

Leopold

[JaraTo]

Oh my, yea we def gotta get ya slowed down for that backup ball type release.