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pipes
04-28-2008, 01:13 PM
They don't seem to be able to Mfg a bowling ball that has a good reactive cover that won't soak up oil like a sponge:( .I think it baloney they can but why won't they ? I have my ideas BUT lets here yours ??

BubbaRay
04-28-2008, 01:18 PM
They can manufacture any ball you want. Many companies will make make any ball you want new or old , reactive or urethane for a fee. I think it's around $400 pouring fee and the balls are alot cheaper to buy in bulk. I don't know if Ebonite Int. does this but the Big B will. You have to buy the balls in quantity though and they are around $60 per ball

pipes
04-28-2008, 01:22 PM
They can manufacture any ball you want. Many companies will make make any ball you want new or old , reactive or urethane for a fee. I think it's around $400 pouring fee and the balls are alot cheaper to buy in bulk. I don't know if Ebonite Int. does this but the Big B will. You have to buy the balls in quantity though and they are around $60 per ball

I mean NEW balls Bubba new material and that grab the lanes as well or better than what we have now BUT not soak up oil like a sponge .I don't have a recipe to be poured but I belive they could invent this easy A friend a mine working for a major chemical company agrees .

No Mercy07
04-28-2008, 01:22 PM
Who said we even put a man on the moon...


Hmmm..

BubbaRay
04-28-2008, 01:25 PM
Who said we even put a man on the moon...


Hmmm..

That's debateable also and I agree but we won't go there in this thread.

PIPES< they probably can and I think in the furtue as the USBC toughens the regulations on lane friction and ballspecs, we will probably see a new cover such as you are talking about.

Young300
04-28-2008, 03:39 PM
That's debateable also and I agree but we won't go there in this thread.

PIPES< they probably can and I think in the furtue as the USBC toughens the regulations on lane friction and ballspecs, we will probably see a new cover such as you are talking about.

They are already putting limitations on the size of the pours in the coverstock. USBC apparently did some research and came up with that the covers of today react so strongly because they have larger pours in them, unlike what the covers used to have. That is also a reason why the covers soak up so much oil, so much faster nowadays.

JaraTo
04-28-2008, 03:43 PM
What happened to the particle reactive? Did they totally give up on that, possibly tweaking it to counteract the sponge effect?

slap
04-28-2008, 03:51 PM
They don't seem to be able to Mfg a bowling ball that has a good reactive cover that won't soak up oil like a sponge:( .I think it baloney they can but why won't they ? I have my ideas BUT lets here yours ??

Because a significant percentage of bowlers want ball with "monster hook." That ball reaction is created in part by high flaring core designs and aggressive, oil soaking covers.

What happened to the particle reactive? Did they totally give up on that, possibly tweaking it to counteract the sponge effect?

Particle is pretty much dead within the Ebonite family although alive and well with other ball companies.

thaiiii
04-28-2008, 04:10 PM
if bowling ball companies started making balls that didn't soak oil, they would eventually go out of business.

the purpose of releasing new balls and coverstocks is to entice customers into buying the new release. if they made balls that do not soak oil and won't die unless its due to physical damage... how could they afford to stay in business if there's no apparent need for a new ball?

its just a part of business management. that's my 2cents.

can-ham
04-28-2008, 04:57 PM
Look at the Roto Grip Cell apparently this ball doesn't soak oil as much...


Cytoplasmic™
(Solid) Designed for a wide variety of patterns from Medium - Heavy Oil w/carry-down Durable long lasting coverstock with a slower oil absorption rate with a 10% increase in surface friction

BubbaRay
04-28-2008, 05:27 PM
And as everchanging lane condtions and Lane oil requirments are in place from year to year, companies will always come up with a new coverstock to combat these changes.

Rowdy
04-28-2008, 11:51 PM
Who said we even put a man on the moon...


Hmmm..

Well,the Hubble Space Telescope for one. Guess where they aimed it to calibrate it after the big fix?? How else do you explain all those American flags,lunar rover tire tracks,footprints and the lower halves of lunar modules???

Tink and I hauled all the gear for the Chandra X-Ray telescope that went up in the Shuttle and they did the same thing with that one. The pictures of the lunar rovers were very cool.

Who else but Americans would take a car on a long trip and leave it behind when we were done???

TenPinSniper
04-29-2008, 12:15 AM
Generally Particle's die fast as well. Thats why Ebonite went away from them... but now they have the Oil Absorbation to deal with. Since I get 2-3 bowling balls a year... just keep up maintaince.

Like several have stated, it you maintain your equipment, it will lst a long time. I have some old reactive Faball and a Vicious that I still bring out from time to time. Plus my High Rev still hits like a truck.

slap
04-29-2008, 07:22 AM
I'm still of fan on the particle stuff. I concede you can cover the same conditions with straight reactive equipment but I've yet to see the particle ball motion in a reactive ball. So smooth and early....

pipes
04-29-2008, 12:25 PM
I maintain my equipment belive me ! I soakake and anything else I can think of . I clean my balls with a micro fiber towel after every shot I clean them with the proper cleaner after every sesion . I have the hook again system and a spinner and 5 gal bucket :O) .

I just wish it wasn't so dang much work . I also agree with Rowdy NO ball is ever dead just need to take care of them . And for the person who said look at a Cell see my ball list below :O) Everything else is Hammer :D and will be .Tho I am thinking about a Complete NV when Uncle Sam sends that money were all getting :O)

mongoliantreesloth
04-30-2008, 12:00 AM
They can manufacture any ball you want. Many companies will make make any ball you want new or old , reactive or urethane for a fee. I think it's around $400 pouring fee and the balls are alot cheaper to buy in bulk. I don't know if Ebonite Int. does this but the Big B will. You have to buy the balls in quantity though and they are around $60 per ball
Almost be worth it if I could get another V2 Strong/R

Well,the Hubble Space Telescope for one. Guess where they aimed it to calibrate it after the big fix?? How else do you explain all those American flags,lunar rover tire tracks,footprints and the lower halves of lunar modules???

Tink and I hauled all the gear for the Chandra X-Ray telescope that went up in the Shuttle and they did the same thing with that one. The pictures of the lunar rovers were very cool
You got a link to the pics from these things?

Rowdy
04-30-2008, 04:24 AM
You can try NASA for the images,but those things are really old now. I do know that after so long NASA only keeps the film in the achive and no longer offers it online.

Rowdy
04-30-2008, 04:26 AM
They can manufacture any ball you want. Many companies will make make any ball you want new or old , reactive or urethane for a fee. I think it's around $400 pouring fee and the balls are alot cheaper to buy in bulk. I don't know if Ebonite Int. does this but the Big B will. You have to buy the balls in quantity though and they are around $60 per ball

At last!!! Now we can have our spare ball!!! We'll just get Bru.....them,to make it for us.

Wonder if they'll have a problem with putting a Hammer logo on a Viz A ball???

Cobalt
04-30-2008, 08:03 AM
Making a reactive coverstock that doesn't soak up oil will have a heavy impact on its abilities.
Yes, it is possible, but the concept behind soaking up oil is that the coverstock will pull it in so that the oil won't be on the surface of the ball so that the surface will generate more friction.
The best way to fight the absorption is to wipe your ball off after every throw, and clean you ball after every series you bowl. If you're willing to pay the money on a high performance ball, you have pull the proper maintenance on it.

As for the particle coverstock, it still absorbed oil as well. I have a Solution Power Plus thats particle, and it will absorb oil all day long. The reason that they quit making particle is because they would tear up the lanes. Particle coverstocks is just that - its full of particles of random stuff. Companies would grind up all sorts of stuff like glass and rocks and dump it into the mixtures. Plus, technology allowed them to make reactive coverstocks that bite more that particle anyhow.