hot water bath

[steelcityguy0530]

I was gonna give my bwp a hot water bath and I was curious to what soap I am suppose to use again. Is it Dawn and how much do I use?

[Young300]

It is Dawn Degreaser if I'm not mistaking and you only use about a table spoon of it.

[5iron]

Just a drop

[steelcityguy0530]

And for the water you just wait till that gets hot put the water and then ball in the bucket for about 15 mins and repeat until no oil shows anymore?

[Steve1591]

Put the ball in the bucket before you put the hot water in

[Thepainscoming]

Put the ball in the bucket before you put the hot water in

Actually it doesn't really matter, i do it the oppisite.

[xGatez]

The bucket i use isnt very big so i have to put the ball in first but i dont think that part matters much.

[Rowdy]

And for the water you just wait till that gets hot put the water and then ball in the bucket for about 15 mins and repeat until no oil shows anymore?

Put the ball in the bucket and run the water until it's steaming hot. Then add the water to the bucket. Change the water out every 15 minutes. Do NOT let the water cool or the ball will soak the oil in the water back into the ball. And you'll have to repeat everything you've done to get the oil out in the first place.

You'll be able to see the oil come out of the ball when you first start to add water to the bucket with the ball already in there. The steam alone will start to wick the surface oil off the ball.

Add Dawn to the SECOND bucket of water. About a tablespoon full is all you need. This will be the only bucket you need to add Dawn to. Keep running the ball through bucket after bucket until the ball feeels squeaky clean.

Remember that you will have to practice with the ball in order to get some oil back in the track area. On a BWSolid it takes me about 5 games to get the ball where I like it.

Enjoy your clean ball.:)

[steelcityguy0530]

Thanks Rowdy. What does the dawn do in that second bucket though. That suprises me that is the only bucket its used in. I would of though every other bucket or something.

[Rowdy]

Thanks Rowdy. What does the dawn do in that second bucket though. That suprises me that is the only bucket its used in. I would of though every other bucket or something.

It helps to get the oil to wick out of the ball better. The first bucket is to get the oil moving out of the ball and to get it up to a temperatue that opens up the pores in the ball.

The Dawn in the second bucket gets in those open pores and helps to get the oil moving. When I empty the second bucket I make sure to leave the suds from the Dawn in there. So there is a little left over for the third bucket. But adding more Dawn is just wasting the stuff.

I've tried it both ways and the only thing that happens when I add the Dawn in every other bucket is that Tinkerbell starts hollering about there being no Dawn left to do the dishes with.:eek: Oops,my bad.

[steelcityguy0530]

lol. ok. thanks again.

[Rowdy]

No problem.

Now go clean your gear.:)

[mongoliantreesloth]

Put the ball in the bucket and run the water until it's steaming hot. Then add the water to the bucket. Change the water out every 15 minutes. Do NOT let the water cool or the ball will soak the oil in the water back into the ball.
Is that something to do with being in the Northern Hemisphere? Down here any oil that's glooped out of the ball gathers on the surface of the water and stays there. Even if the water goes stone cold it's there - doesn't get sucked back down or anything.

[Street Racer]

dishwashing liquid does the job...

did it to my black ice the other day and woo i got the hooking reaction back lol

[Rowdy]

Is that something to do with being in the Northern Hemisphere? Down here any oil that's glooped out of the ball gathers on the surface of the water and stays there. Even if the water goes stone cold it's there - doesn't get sucked back down or anything.

Last I checked oil is still heavier than water. Even in the Southern Hemisphere. It would settle to the bottom of the bucket. Where your ball happens to be sitting. With open pores from the hot water. Some will get sucked back into the ball as the water cools.

At least our toilets flush in the right direction.....:rolleyes:

[kchays]

Is that something to do with being in the Northern Hemisphere? Down here any oil that's glooped out of the ball gathers on the surface of the water and stays there. Even if the water goes stone cold it's there - doesn't get sucked back down or anything.

you are absolutely correct oil is lighter than water if it is on the surface of the water after it gets out of the ball it can't soak back into the ball. I am sorry some people blather on and on and truly show how little they know. all you have to do is pour some oil in water and see for your self the oil stays on top

[Rowdy]

you are absolutely correct oil is lighter than water if it is on the surface of the water after it gets out of the ball it can't soak back into the ball. I am sorry some people blather on and on and truly show how little they know.

Really??? Shove your hand down to the bottom of the bucket,Sonny. Tell me what you feel. Oil. I rest my case. Again.

[madaba]

In a perfectly controlled environment, oil would sit on top of the water, but since this isn't, it's possible

[kchays]

In a perfectly controlled environment, oil would sit on top of the water, but since this isn't, it's possible

Some people don't believe in controlled environments. I do know that after washing bowling balls in a bucket of water, dirt may and will settle to the bottom of the bucket but the oil won't. After the water stops moving the oil will rise to the top.

[bluerrpilot]

Your incorrect Rowdy. Oil is less dense than water and will sit on top. That was week 1 in chemisty class

Havent you seen an oil spill on the ocean. It does not sink.


For what its worth......I dont even use soap. I just let the heat draw out the oil. Wipe down and repeat

[Rowdy]

Your incorrect Rowdy. Oil is less dense than water and will sit on top. That was week 1 in chemisty class

Havent you seen an oil spill on the ocean. It does not sink.


For what its worth......I dont even use soap. I just let the heat draw out the oil. Wipe down and repeat

I'm with you on the not using Dawn anymore. Tinkerbell kept hollering about not having any left over to do the dishes. Nevermind the fact that I was using it on HER gear.:eek:

I was out sick the first week of Chem 101. What else did I miss???

It does sink too. That's the crap that gets stuck to the bottom of your foot when you go to the beach.

[30 Clean]

I gave both my BWS and Storm Agent baths over the weekend and was amazed at how much cr-p, er, I mean oil came out of them. And I bought a my own small bottle of Dawn to use so the wifey wouldn't get mad at me for using the dish soap. :)

[JaraTo]

you are absolutely correct oil is lighter than water ... I am sorry some people blather on and on and truly show how little they know.

Wrong, blathering and incorrect your statement yourself.

Last I checked oil is still heavier than water.

Still wrong.

Your incorrect Rowdy. Oil is less dense than water and will sit on top.

Bingo! What weighs more... a pound of feathers or a pound of gold?

[idlehourlegend]

Bingo! What weighs more... a pound of feathers or a pound of gold?

they both weigh a pound. Duh.:rolleyes:

[Thepainscoming]

I was gonna post that JaraTo, but wasn't sure if i was right or not.

[can-ham]

http://www.pacificariptide.com/pacifica_riptide/images/2007/11/15/ba_oil_spill_0299_kr.jpg

[backnblk]

Rowdy,

Oil floats to the top.... you might be feeling the DAWN you added to the bucket at the bottom... not the OIL you say is there.

[J_W73]

Bingo! What weighs more... a pound of feathers or a pound of gold?

I'll take the pound of gold

[J_W73]

http://www.pacificariptide.com/pacifica_riptide/images/2007/11/15/ba_oil_spill_0299_kr.jpg

What ball did that come out of ??

[J_W73]

Rowdy,

Oil floats to the top.... you might be feeling the DAWN you added to the bucket at the bottom... not the OIL you say is there.

or when you put your hand to the bottom of the bucket you are putting your hand through the oil ..

I will have to check out the bottom of the bucket next time I give my ball a bath...
Oil is less dense then water.. but who knows about conditioner and other stuff that might be on the lane.

[Rowdy]

http://www.pacificariptide.com/pacifica_riptide/images/2007/11/15/ba_oil_spill_0299_kr.jpg

Oh look,someone stuck a BWSolid after rolling 250 games with it in the ocean.:eek:

[idlehourlegend]

Oh look,someone stuck a BWSolid after rolling 250 games with it in the ocean.:eek:

LOL Was thinking the exact same thing.:D

[blistershurt]

everytime i give my ball a bath all the oil is on the top of the water and on the ball, plus oil is less dense than water, meaning it floats

[grayfin68]

Last I checked oil is still heavier than water. Even in the Southern Hemisphere. It would settle to the bottom of the bucket. Where your ball happens to be sitting. With open pores from the hot water. Some will get sucked back into the ball as the water cools.

At least our toilets flush in the right direction.....:rolleyes:

??????? HUH ???????

Water is heavier than oil. Oil floats on top of water. That is a fact my friend. I would be glad to take a picture of some Good Seasons Italian dressing that I have to prove it, although, I would think you would already know this as it is common knowledge.

[JaraTo]

??????? HUH ???????

Water is heavier than oil. Oil floats on top of water. That is a fact my friend. I would be glad to take a picture of some Good Seasons Italian dressing that I have to prove it, although, I would think you would already know this as it is common knowledge.

WRONG! We cleared that up earlier in the thread. It's the density my friend.

[grayfin68]

WRONG! We cleared that up earlier in the thread. It's the density my friend.

Meh, the effect and end result is the same. Oil floats on top of the water. Density can be considered a form of weight. If you had a quarter that was made of lead and one made of aluminum, the lead quarter would weigh more. It's because of leads density that makes it heavier.

[Rowdy]

??????? HUH ???????

Water is heavier than oil. Oil floats on top of water. That is a fact my friend. I would be glad to take a picture of some Good Seasons Italian dressing that I have to prove it, although, I would think you would already know this as it is common knowledge.

I asked someone who is in the know. The first question I got asked back was,"What kind of oil?" Oops. Turns out it has to do with the viscosity of the oil as to weather or not it would float on top of water. Crude oil will drop like a rock and lighter oil,such as what is in Good Seasons Italian dressing and lane oil would rise to the top. Boy,those guys at Marathon are tough to trick with a simple question.

[grayfin68]

I asked someone who is in the know. The first question I got asked back was,"What kind of oil?" Oops. Turns out it has to do with the viscosity of the oil as to weather or not it would float on top of water. Crude oil will drop like a rock and lighter oil,such as what is in Good Seasons Italian dressing and lane oil would rise to the top. Boy,those guys at Marathon are tough to trick with a simple question.

I've been researching this on the internet and haven't found any instances of any particular types of oil that are more dense than water. Even from a Harvard University report, water is more dense and since oil is not water-soluble, the oil will always float on top of the water.

[J_W73]

I have seen a couple of articles about crude oil sinking in water. Not a lot of details though.. It seems like the oil is stuck to other heavy contaminants that make it sink.

[Smelly_Redneck]

The stuff you step in at the beach is Tar btw.

[BubbaRay]

Ok here's a neat little thing to ry and prove oil floats to the top of water. When we boil water for pasts, some may put alittle oil (Cooking oil ) in the water to help keep the patsa from sticking together as it cooks. The oil will always lay on top of the water. Try this and you will see how the oil floats to the top of water. I have seen this in my type of work also. Water in crankcase of an auto, when you remove the drain plug , the water is the first to drain.

[Rowdy]

The stuff you step in at the beach is Tar btw.

And where does tar come from??? Oil.

[Smelly_Redneck]

And where does tar come from??? Oil.

But so do about a million other things too.

[grayfin68]

I have seen a couple of articles about crude oil sinking in water. Not a lot of details though.. It seems like the oil is stuck to other heavy contaminants that make it sink.

That's because crude oil has many other elements in it. When oil is refined, it becomes less dense than water, therefore it floats on top of water.

Rowdy's premise that the oil will soak back into the ball once the water turns cold is false. The only thing that the hotter temperature does to oil is makes it more viscous and it may suspend more in the water. If anything, more of the oil will gather to the top when the water is cold.