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OregonBowler03
05-07-2008, 06:20 PM
:confused: my league starts this monday and have never thrown on anything but a house shot. i'm a very high rev guy and throw bout 17-18mph. my question is, how do i approach each pattern for my styile of roller?? thanks
dqnjuan
05-07-2008, 06:54 PM
http://forums.hammerbowling.com/showthread.php?t=4177
search button is your friend. cheers
bubbiesdad
05-07-2008, 06:59 PM
Try this one also.
http://www.bowl.com/sportbowling/pbaExperience_intro.aspx
It provides perspectives from crankers, strokers, and tweeners.
BubbaRay
05-07-2008, 07:19 PM
CHEETAH: At 35’, the shortest, and the only one that forces virtually everyone outside. Ebonite Tour rep Dino Castillo says his staff tends to use medium to strong-reacting balls, with strong layouts (pins and mass biases right of the holes), which causes the ball to burn up and stop. But the strong outside angle makes up for any roll-out.
It’s important to come up the back of the ball, reducing rotation angles. You want to see a ball that reads the mids pretty early — and that means a strong cover with a weak layout, to decrease flare.
VIPER: It’s considered the most versatile pattern on Tour. Those extra 2' allow some down-lane hold, with enough dry to give the straighter balls plenty of reaction. You have to have equipment that comes off the pattern cleanly. I recommend medium to strong balls drilled pin-down. Castillo likes medium to weak layouts (5-6” pin), to get the ball rolling early for a controlled break.
CHAMELEON: It's 39-foot length is the point where most balls start their break point. The length can help by providing some down-lane hold... or hurt, by causing the ball to squirt just enough to cause weak 10s and 2-8s. How Chameleon plays depends a lot on lane surface. Some of the newer synthetics are tighter by nature (forcing the bowler to stay outside 10-board) while overlays like Lane Shield tend to hook more (allowing the bowler to chase the oil inside).
Ball selection is critical. Too strong a combination will get the ball around the oil, but will burn up. A lot of pros use polished covers and medium layouts (with strong mass biases).
SCORPION: This has been the toughest pattern for the pros. Castillo says that’s because its carry-down can “fake you out.” Almost everyone starts outside, burns a hole, then moves deeper. But the carry-down causes an inconsistent break. When moving left, you have to be a little softer to get the ball around the oil. Stronger layouts are recommended, but with less surface.
SHARK: With 44 feet of oil between them and the break point, the pros have learned that they have to burn in a shot before they can score. Castillo says they scuff the daylights out of their staffers’ equipment. Then they can move left, play the oil line, and get the ball to make the turn. The straighties are in trouble on this pattern. Even Duke and Deadeye will be inside, coming around the ball. Castillo likes his players to be a bit slower on this shot, giving the ball plenty of time to hook.
Curacao_Dejavu
05-07-2008, 09:25 PM
question ?
if they don't tell you on what type of pattern there is out there, how do you find out ?
and as a newbie how do you know how to adjust without knowing the pattern ?
Leopold
rotogrippro91
05-07-2008, 09:26 PM
they should tell u and if not ask the lane guys...they can tell you wat they laid down as far as oil and then maybe some of them have bowled them and can give you some pointers right there in person....my suggestions are keep ur speed low
idlehourlegend
05-07-2008, 09:28 PM
What I do is if I dont know a pattern is I have a spot that I always start at no matter what if I dont know the pattern, just pick a spot on the approach and lane that your comfortable with and always start there. If the ball doesnt come back start moving right, if it comes high start moving left until the ball is in the pocket, then your fine. If you know the pattern it makes it a lot easier just by looking at it you know where to play, but if I dont know the pattern thats what I do.
BubbaRay
05-08-2008, 05:49 AM
The should tell you the Pattern that is out there. That would not be fair if they do not because I am sure there are some that would have indise information who bowl in the league . If this is the case it would be an unfair advantage over everyone else. Ask the peron at the counter or the league Sec.
Thepainscoming
05-08-2008, 01:54 PM
Well if its a big tournament around here, usually its on a harder shot. So if the ball slides, i move everything in and try and stay square. If it hooked up and a lot, i move everything outside like you would on the cheetah. If its a small tourney, i'll just move left and try to play the outside if i cant, i'll try the middle.
Rowdy
05-08-2008, 10:51 PM
Go to bowl.com and print out the oil patterns that they have there. There's also playing tips next to the lane diagram. Write your own notes on the back of the page so the next time you see the pattern again you'll have an idea of how you rolled on it the last time.
Ask the lane guy what pattern he laid down. They SHOULD tell everyone what the pattern is for that night,but as we all know what the house should do and what it actually does are usually two different things.
OregonBowler03
05-08-2008, 11:20 PM
cool thanks for the input everyone. the secratary of the eague is a good friend of mine so i should know what pattern it should be
Rowdy
05-08-2008, 11:26 PM
cool thanks for the input everyone. the secratary of the eague is a good friend of mine so i should know what pattern it should be
Universal Bowling Truth: Once you start rolling for score and/or cash,you have NO friends on the lanes.
The reason I said to ask the guy running the oil machine what the pattern is should be obvious. He KNOWS what pattern went down on the lane,he was running the machine. Someone else may have told him to lay down something different and for some reason the pattern got changed. Always best to get your info from the horses mouth.
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