Poll:One Lane Or Two???

[Rowdy]

Okay,most of you are familiar with one lane courtesy. It's what your usual league uses. But when you move up to tournaments,Regionals and leagues with really good bowlers you'll run into the use of the two lane courtesy.

Should the one lane courtesy go the way of the dodo??? Do away with it in favor of the two lane??? Or is a two lane courtesy too hard for some to figure out???

[Sabotage]

i do not personally care, one lane is fine for me. but then bowlers are whiny in nature so i give em two or some want like a 12 lane courtesy. those guys can go to hell and i dont care what they want

[idlehourlegend]

It works either way for me, fine with either one, but I like 2 lane courtesy more. Nice to have the room to not have to worry about someone walking up on you when your getting ready to release the ball, from more than 2 lanes theres a guarantee you wont see that unless your not concentrating, but from 1 lane its easy to see.

[bluerrpilot]

One is fine for 95% of leagues. I feel tourneys should be 2 or regional style. 2 lane isn't hard to figure out. Its just slow for some people. And some people get confused with the PBA style, which I feel is faster than the standard 2 lane courtesy

[idlehourlegend]

One is fine for 95% of leagues. I feel tourneys should be 2 or regional style. 2 lane isn't hard to figure out. Its just slow for some people. And some people get confused with the PBA style, which I feel is faster than the standard 2 lane courtesy

The PBA style is probably complicated for people starting out but its not complicated, just if no ones bowling on either of the pairs next to you then you go.

[Rowdy]

The PBA style is probably complicated for people starting out but its not complicated, just if no ones bowling on either of the pairs next to you then you go.

Exactly,it's just that easy and it makes the game go smoother. No "speed" bowling at all. No one on either pair to both sides of you up? Hit it.

[bluerrpilot]

If you bowl twice without someone else from each of those pairs bowling its considered double jumping. And some guys get very testy about it.

[idlehourlegend]

If you bowl twice without someone else from each of those pairs bowling its considered double jumping. And some guys get very testy about it.

Yea thats even in the PBA rules, says its not allowed or its frowned upon, one or the other havent read them in a bit.

[Rowdy]

If you bowl twice without someone else from each of those pairs bowling its considered double jumping. And some guys get very testy about it.

It's called thier taking too damn long to get ready. They have no right to bitch if they're sitting on thier butt when they should be up on the lane. Crybabies.

[OmegaRed]

One lane is good enough. If you cant concentrate with even a bit of distraction you need to work on your mental game.

[Dave34]

I'm fine with one lane but I usually give two just in case someone else prefers that.

[Curacao_Dejavu]

One is fine for 95% of leagues. I feel tourneys should be 2 or regional style. 2 lane isn't hard to figure out. Its just slow for some people. And some people get confused with the PBA style, which I feel is faster than the standard 2 lane courtesy

what's :
1 lane courtesy
2 lane courtesy
pba style (and then compare it with 1 lane courtesy)
doublejumping

assume you are lane 5.

Leopold

[jedi47]

One lane is good enough. If you cant concentrate with even a bit of distraction you need to work on your mental game.

AND it speeds the game up.

[Rowdy]

what's :
1 lane courtesy
2 lane courtesy
pba style (and then compare it with 1 lane courtesy)
doublejumping

assume you are lane 5.

Leopold

1 lane is what you use now. I hope. You check the lane to your left and right and if no ones up,you go. No one on lanes 4 and 6? Go.

Two lane is the same as 1 lane,exept now it's 2 lanes on either side. No one up on lanes 3,4,6 and 7? Go.

PBA uses a two lane courtesy.

Doublejumping is when you bowl again before everyone else on the adjoining pairs have bowled. You roll on lane 5. Before you can roll again on lane 6 all the guys on lanes 4,5,7 and 8 have to take thier turn.

Only exeption that I am aware of is the 10th frame. We've always let the guy finish the thing out uninterrupted. Maybe we're just being nice.

[Rowdy]

AND it speeds the game up.

No,it doesn't. I've rolled eight game blocks both ways and the two lane courtesy always finishes faster.

[idlehourlegend]

what's :
1 lane courtesy
2 lane courtesy
pba style (and then compare it with 1 lane courtesy)
doublejumping

assume you are lane 5.

Leopold

1) 1 lane courtesy, is giving the bowlers bowling next to you one lane, meaning if someones on the lane next to you (left or right), you stay off the approach and wait until they bowl.
2) 2 lane courtesy, is when you give the bowlers bowling next to you 2 lanes, meaning if someone 2 lanes to the left or right of you is bowling, then you wait until they throw before you go on the approach.
3) PBA style is, if someone is bowling on either pair next to you, the pair to your left (3&4 if your on lane 5) or 6&7 on your right, then you wait for them to bowl, then when no one is bowling on either pair next to you then its your turn to bowl.
4) Doublejumping is bowling twice before the bowlers on the pairs next to you gets to bowl there first turn.

Thats as simple as I can make them.

[Rowdy]

One lane is good enough. If you cant concentrate with even a bit of distraction you need to work on your mental game.

Oh come on. You can't tell me that someone with "fast feet" has never got in your peripheral vision and maybe,just maybe,thrown you off just a little bit. Two lane eliminates all that.

[jtbndy]

One lane of courtesy isn't really courtesy at all.

I think two lanes should be the standard.

[Curacao_Dejavu]

in that case , we are using the 1 lane courtesy.

Leopold

[OmegaRed]

Oh come on. You can't tell me that someone with "fast feet" has never got in your peripheral vision and maybe,just maybe,thrown you off just a little bit. Two lane eliminates all that.


I think you are the same guy who advocates practicing when there are little kid birthday parties going on right? Improves your concentration you said.

I cant stand people who blame their bowling misteps on other people.(Not saying you are one of these people) If you cant keep your eyes on your target and your mind on the task at hand then you need to work on that mental game. I know guys who i have rolled with will throw a shot and walk back talking about how this guy or that guy got in his plain of vision, or that guys keep pressing me to hurry up or people are slowing me down. Bowling is all about adjustments and concentration.

[Sabotage]

Oh come on. You can't tell me that someone with "fast feet" has never got in your peripheral vision and maybe,just maybe,thrown you off just a little bit. Two lane eliminates all that.

not here. once im on the approach im locked into nothing but my lane. i hear nothing and see nothing but my lane. been playing sports my whole short life and locking into your target is number before anything else. getting distracted was never an excuse.

[MrSoGood]

I voted for one, but it doesn't really matter as long as everyone's doing the same thing. I bowled in a 6-game sweeper the other day, with a one lane courtesy, and one guy on the next pair was giving a two lane courtesy. Talk about killing your groove.

[idlehourlegend]

I voted for one, but it doesn't really matter as long as everyone's doing the same thing. I bowled in a 6-game sweeper the other day, with a one lane courtesy, and one guy on the next pair was giving a two lane courtesy. Talk about killing your groove.

Sweeper giving one last courtesy? I've never even heard of that, usually with something like that everyone knows its 2 lanes.

[steelcityguy0530]

I've always used 2 lanes for my leagues. I find it kind of odd to use just one lane sometimes though.

[Rowdy]

not here. once im on the approach im locked into nothing but my lane. i hear nothing and see nothing but my lane. been playing sports my whole short life and locking into your target is number before anything else. getting distracted was never an excuse.

Come roll with me. After the fifth guy of the night wanders directly in front of you while you're right at the bottom of your swing tell me you ain't getting just a touch distracted.

[TenPinSniper]

Voted Two. Where I bowl it practically a unwritten rule of two lanes.

It pretty simple, if everyone gives two... then there will be very little room for excuses. One of the leagues, we have people who have trouble with giving one lane.

Cuts the excuses, when I bowl next to people who are not courtesy, I usually say something but I take the blame for not letting them go first. Trust I'll make a true state of what happened, but unless it was out of character for that bowler, I always blame myself... putting myself in that spot.

I go for the PBA Style, but there is always someone off talking, so it would hold up that format. Just my guess.

[Adrenaline]

I'm sure the league's I'm a part of are less serious than your guys's, but although we have a fair share, of "serious" bowlers, 85% of the league is there to kick back, relax, have fun and... Drink.

I've never even heard of a 2 lane courtesy, but it just seems like it's more trouble than it's worth, when it comes to big leagues. Personally, I've given 2 lane courtesy every now and then, but only to myself, lol. If I see someone out of the corner of my eye, steping up at the same time as me, it kind of throws me off, so I let them go first.

I actually went and bought an Ipod, specifically for League nights, because it just helps me drown out the noise, and concentrate better.

[Crusher279757]

Two is fine for me. Although I'm really good at staying focused and not allowing any type of distraction to bother me.

[YuraS718]

The few leagues I have bowled in so far was all 2 lane.

[ravenhammer]

One lane is probably enough for most leagues.
Now the Pro-Pin, Men's Scratch Singles, PBA Ex. League where every week is a bracket 2 lanes is real nice.

[mbrown300]

for me it depends on the league if its a scratch league i will give two lanes unless that person walks up on me then i just give them 1 lane the rest of the year. otherwise its 1 lane unless someone by me has a big string of strikes going then i give 2 thats just common courtesy, but for 1 lane do you wait for them to get off the approach completly? i usually wait for them to release the ball and there heading off the approach, aswell what about practice? for me there is no courtesy there why wait because you will use the time up for waiting we only get 5 minutes for practice and want to get as many shots as i can

[PASSIONATEBOWLER]

I've found that women bowlers generally only give a one lane courtesy in league play, and men always give two. However, when it comes to tournaments the rule is one.

Initially, it took me a minute to get use to the 'one lane courtesy' rule, however, as one of the previous HammerHeads remarked: It's all about staying focused. If you can't do it with the 'one lane courtesy', you probably need to work on your mental game (like I had to).

The only things I find too distracting is:

A) Loud mouths who like to scream and shout, while I'm in the middle of my swing (because maybe they felt they got a bad break)
B) Kids (or adults) who dart out on the lanes while I'm in the middle of my swing: ARGH-H-H-H!!!!!!:eek:

[30 Clean]

I'm fine with 1 lane but usually try and allow 2.

[Old Scratch]

This.

once im on the approach im locked into nothing but my lane. i hear nothing and see nothing but my lane. been playing sports my whole short life and locking into your target is number before anything else. getting distracted was never an excuse.

One lane is enough. If you need two your mental game is deficient. I love bowling against guys who have to have their two lanes. It's SO much easier to put them off their game. Advantage me.

[30 Clean]

This.

One lane is enough. If you need two your mental game is deficient...

I try to allow 2 lanes but not for me but for the other people. One lane is more than enough for me.

[idlehourlegend]

This.



One lane is enough. If you need two your mental game is deficient. I love bowling against guys who have to have their two lanes. It's SO much easier to put them off their game. Advantage me.

Ok, explain something to me here. If your bowling a league night and the guy is 2 lanes to the left or right of you, then how is it advantage you? Your not even bowling against them. So why try to mess with someone your not even bowling against, I really dont get some people, respect the bowler and give him the room that he needs to make a quality shot, if Im going to beat someone I want them to be bowling their best and not have any excuses (atleast legit ones). I dunno maybe its just me but I like to portray myself as a gentlemen both of the lanes and off, I give the people what they want lane wise and I expect the same back from the people, if they dont give it to me then they dont get there 2 lanes, but other than that they can have however many they want, just how I go about things.

[TenPinSniper]

There have been a couple times in the past year, where I was unsure if I gave someone courtesy, so I went over, asked and made sure they knew it not intentional from me. Think most people appreciate it.

Yes I can deal with one lane, but two is much better.

Lane Courtesy is a pretty big issue with me, epsecially in leagues... in warm-up and practice who gives a ...:p

[OmegaRed]

Ok, explain something to me here. If your bowling a league night and the guy is 2 lanes to the left or right of you, then how is it advantage you? Your not even bowling against them. So why try to mess with someone your not even bowling against, I really dont get some people, respect the bowler and give him the room that he needs to make a quality shot, if Im going to beat someone I want them to be bowling their best and not have any excuses (atleast legit ones). I dunno maybe its just me but I like to portray myself as a gentlemen both of the lanes and off, I give the people what they want lane wise and I expect the same back from the people, if they dont give it to me then they dont get there 2 lanes, but other than that they can have however many they want, just how I go about things.

I guess reading comprehension isnt your strong point.

He was saying if he was playing against someone who cant bowl well if there are distractions then it would be an easy win that night. No where in that post did he say he was going to try and intentionally mess with people he isnt even bowling against.

[idlehourlegend]

I guess reading comprehension isnt your strong point.

He was saying if he was playing against someone who cant bowl well if there are distractions then it would be an easy win that night. No where in that post did he say he was going to try and intentionally mess with people he isnt even bowling against.

Ok whats up with the attitude every time you answer one of my posts?

He said if someone needs two lanes that means they get easily distracted and they have a bad mental game and he loves bowling against guys who need 2 lanes, well if your bowling against someone that needs 2 lanes then that would mean there not waiting on you for the second lane so you really have nothing to do with it, your bowling on the same pair so your one the lane next to him (1 lane) so you have no choice but to wait for him really. Dont get how you could really mess with them, or what the point of messing with them is. The way I look at it is go out there and bowl and let everyone do the same then you beat them fair and square, its rude to bother people when there on the approach, if he needs 2 lanes so be it let him have it. Beat him with your scores not your so called mind games, if you cant then obviously hes the better bowler, JMO.

[Old Scratch]

Ok, explain something to me here. If your bowling a league night and the guy is 2 lanes to the left or right of you, then how is it advantage you? Your not even bowling against them. So why try to mess with someone your not even bowling against, I really dont get some people, respect the bowler and give him the room that he needs to make a quality shot, if Im going to beat someone I want them to be bowling their best and not have any excuses (atleast legit ones). I dunno maybe its just me but I like to portray myself as a gentlemen both of the lanes and off, I give the people what they want lane wise and I expect the same back from the people, if they dont give it to me then they dont get there 2 lanes, but other than that they can have however many they want, just how I go about things.

Please note that I didn't say anything about the guy 2 lanes away. I also didn't say anything about not giving courtesy. My intent was, rather, to comment on how comparatively easy it is to get in the head of someone who needs the extra space/quiet zone vs someone who doesn't.

[jedi47]

This.



One lane is enough. If you need two your mental game is deficient. I love bowling against guys who have to have their two lanes. It's SO much easier to put them off their game. Advantage me.
I'm in TOTAL agreement... 1 lane clear on both sides is enough..... I have done both, and I do stand by earlier statement of 1 lane being quicker, in every league, tournament, and state I've bowled in.

[hbhammerhead]

i have always bowled on 2 lanes but it wouldn't bother me if i was only on 1 lane. i have 60 lanes at the house i bowl league, so they always have leagues with 2 lanes.

[jhufstedler]

We all pretty much started with one lane courtesy, heck I even remember kids just going up there with no lane courtesy when they were just starting out. We use one lane courtesy everywhere I bowl. Two lanes tends to eat up a little more time. When I am on a roll, I don't want to wait for another lane to clear up so I can go. Come on now, Leagues should be 1, tournaments should be 1, Lets not forget where we came from here. I know there are some who travel for over an hour to get to the lanes to bowl in league, so I am sure they would not want to have to wait on that other lane to open up just so they could bowl. I don't see any need for 2 at any given time.

[Rowdy]

This.



One lane is enough. If you need two your mental game is deficient. I love bowling against guys who have to have their two lanes. It's SO much easier to put them off their game. Advantage me.

Just remember,what goes around,comes around. You play your little head game with me,I'll play a bigger one back.

[Old Scratch]

Just remember,what goes around,comes around. You play your little head game with me,I'll play a bigger one back.

You are quite right about comings and goings. But with all due respect, and like all others who have tried, you haven't a chance. There are a lot of bowlers out there that are a lot better than I am, and you may be one of them, but nobody gets in my head but me. I like your spunky response, though.

[Rowdy]

You are quite right about comings and goings. But with all due respect, and like all others who have tried, you haven't a chance. There are a lot of bowlers out there that are a lot better than I am, and you may be one of them, but nobody gets in my head but me. I like your spunky response, though.

I'm already in.:)

Let the games begin.

[Sabotage]

You are quite right about comings and goings. But with all due respect, and like all others who have tried, you haven't a chance. There are a lot of bowlers out there that are a lot better than I am, and you may be one of them, but nobody gets in my head but me. I like your spunky response, though.

same here, growing up playing various sports, youre not getting in my head for whatever reason. one can try, but they'd be waisting their time

[Rowdy]

same here, growing up playing various sports, youre not getting in my head for whatever reason. one can try, but they'd be waisting their time

Uh huh. Sure. You betcha. Got it.

Hey,do you breathe in or out at release?;)

[Gnarly]

I believe that one is all thats needed. I don't even notice anyone on either side of me. I have more important items to concentrate on than worrying about giving 1 or 2 lanes. LOL :eek:

[Sabotage]

Uh huh. Sure. You betcha. Got it.

Hey,do you breathe in or out at release?;)

neither!!!

[Rowdy]

neither!!!

But now you're thinking about it and I'll bet you checked the next time you bowled.

Gotcha.:)

[Sabotage]

But now you're thinking about it and I'll bet you checked the next time you bowled.

Gotcha.:)

self control is a wonderful thing and no i wont check

[Rowdy]

self control is a wonderful thing and no i wont check

Sure you will. You won't be able to help yourself.

Turn to The Dark Side.:)

By the way,did you notice that sticky spot on the approach on the right lane???;)

[Sabotage]

Sure you will. You won't be able to help yourself.

Turn to The Dark Side.:)

By the way,did you notice that sticky spot on the approach on the right lane???;)

i dont slide anyways :p

[Rowdy]

i dont slide anyways :p

Uh huh. Keep an eye on the 3 pin on the left lane. The pinstter tends to put it down off spot.

[Old Scratch]

Keep an eye on the 3 pin on the left lane. The pinstter tends to put it down off spot.
By the way,did you notice that sticky spot on the approach on the right lane???
Hey,do you breathe in or out at release?

Final Grade: D-
#1 can be built on and maybe turn into something. The others are way too obvious and too direct. I expected better.

[Dave34]

I'm not gonna lie, the breathing at release one got me thinking. I have since learned that I don't do either at release. However, I'm weak minded.

[Sabotage]

I'm not gonna lie, the breathing at release one got me thinking. I have since learned that I don't do either at release. However, I'm weak minded.

lol nice dave. yea i have never taken a breath when releasing any kind of ball whether it be a baseball, basketball, football, bowling ball