*~Hammer The SAUCE Video from Videoballreviews.com!~*

[BubbaRay]

Hi All,

I'm proud to present to you The Hammer The Sauce Video.

http://www.videoballreviews.com/sauce.html

My Take on the Ball:

The Sauce is a much needed piece from Hammer. They needed a ball capable of handling oil, that is smoother off the breakpoint. The Black Widow series is one of the best lineups in the market. But none of them truly excel on the thicker/longer stuff. (The BITE is close, but this new sauce fits the bill much better)

The Sauce is a heavy rolling ball that keeps the pins very low for me...it makes an aggressive move off the dry, not angular but still enough to kick the corners. Hammerheads will love the control this ball offers on longer and tougher shots.

One word of advice, this cover and core are strong...know when to put it away if you run out of lane! This ball becomes unusable for me with a lack of head oil. But the nice part is the balls ability to continue to round the corner as you have to move in throughout the night.

Great addition to the line up hammer
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Britton (formerly bar5003)

Owner/Operator of Videoballreviews.com

[PinSlayer]

Hi All,

I'm proud to present to you The Hammer The Sauce Video.

http://www.videoballreviews.com/sauce.html

My Take on the Ball:

The Sauce is a much needed piece from Hammer. They needed a ball capable of handling oil, that is smoother off the breakpoint. The Black Widow series is one of the best lineups in the market. But none of them truly excel on the thicker/longer stuff. (The BITE is close, but this new sauce fits the bill much better)

The Sauce is a heavy rolling ball that keeps the pins very low for me...it makes an aggressive move off the dry, not angular but still enough to kick the corners. Hammerheads will love the control this ball offers on longer and tougher shots.

One word of advice, this cover and core are strong...know when to put it away if you run out of lane! This ball becomes unusable for me with a lack of head oil. But the nice part is the balls ability to continue to round the corner as you have to move in throughout the night.

Great addition to the line up hammer
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Britton (formerly bar5003)

Owner/Operator of Videoballreviews.com

I found that site a couple of weeks ago and watched several ball reviews before buying. I would have to agree. The pins do stay low to the deck. I am happy with mine. Now I just need to get my game back and keep my ball speed and revs the same instead of throwing harder one shot and softer the next..

[bluerrpilot]

OK, this might sting a bit but here it goes......

To all that buy balls or form opinions on a ball based on what they see in an online video....Please call me, I have some beach front property for sale in Arizona.....really cheap.

[PinSlayer]

OK, this might sting a bit but here it goes......

To all that buy balls or form opinions on a ball based on what they see in an online video....Please call me, I have some beach front property for sale in Arizona.....really cheap.

Why would you say that? I know I know.. The videos are done by guys with 210 + Avg's... So many people out there will not get the same results as in the video because they do not have the revs to produce that much backend. Right???

Cover stock and the RG is what convinced me on the Sauce. It is a lower RG ball. That is one thing I wanted.

OH how much you want for the property??? I have a person at work that's intrested.... HAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[idlehourlegend]

Why would you say that? I know I know.. The videos are done by guys with 210 + Avg's... So many people out there will not get the same results as in the video because they do not have the revs to produce that much backend. Right???

Cover stock and the RG is what convinced me on the Sauce. It is a lower RG ball. That is one thing I wanted.

OH how much you want for the property??? I have a person at work that's intrested.... HAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Its basically just what ball works for them doesnt mean it will work for other people too for a ton of reasons, Britton doesnt have a ton of revs but its his tilt that gives him the backend motion. Also it may not have worked well for them either but when they put the video together they only show the strikes, so it makes it look good. Know what I mean? with a video showing all strikes it will make anything look good. BUT if the people are accurate like Britton and Buddies (certain ones), and are on the same THS you can compare 2 balls reactions.

[bluerrpilot]

Why would you say that? I know I know.. The videos are done by guys with 210 + Avg's... So many people out there will not get the same results as in the video because they do not have the revs to produce that much backend. Right???



1) Its very difficult to gage the reaction and read of a ball when you dont have the depth preception that watching a video gives you.

2) The obvious difference between bowlers that are making the video and bowlers that will be using the ball.

3) The same differences between the pattern and surface they are using compared to the one that you might be using it on.


I get at least 3 customers a week talking about the ball video they saw on the internet and how they want there ball to react like that. Or they complain that there ball doesnt work like that, and its drilled the same.

[Thepainscoming]

also, the look of speed on a camera for bowling is slower then in real life, idk y but it is.

[VmsTopGun]

OK, this might sting a bit but no everyone is entitled to a point of view

To all that buy balls or form opinions on a ball based on what they see in an online video....Please call me, I have some beach front property for sale in Arizona.....really cheap.

The Sauce vs. Anger video that Jeff made is quite helpful. My son throws his Anger on the same line Jeff was throwing so that gave us a good idea of how the Sauce would react in his hands.

I agree that I can't tell how a ball will react when I throw it compared to any video because I cant generate the velocity or rev rate that the "testers" do. I'm just now starting to become NVD worthy;)

[Young300]

One thing that people should always remember when watching a video of a certain bowling ball on the internet is that everyone throws it differently and to achieve the same motion that they see in the video, they need to allow the driller to work with them and use a layout that would be the same measurements off of their PAP. I know that there are quite a few bowlers around my area that don't even know what a PAP is, as well as that some of the drillers here don't even think that measuring off of the PAP will make a big difference. Once I started going off of my PAP the balls started to really react how I wanted them to and I haven't looked back since.

[BubbaRay]

One thing that people should always remember when watching a video of a certain bowling ball on the internet is that everyone throws it differently and to achieve the same motion that they see in the video, they need to allow the driller to work with them and use a layout that would be the same measurements off of their PAP. I know that there are quite a few bowlers around my area that don't even know what a PAP is, as well as that some of the drillers here don't even think that measuring off of the PAP will make a big difference. Once I started going off of my PAP the balls started to really react how I wanted them to and I haven't looked back since.


And to add to this, I know and have watched a Ball driller that works at an alley's pro shop that doesn't drill accordingt to a bowlers PAP. I think Idle knows who I mean. I have watched him take a vibe and recently as tonight , a Psycho out of the box and drill it for a customer only with span measurements. That's scary. I think I will talk to the owner and see if he would like a sample of how things are done right.

[idlehourlegend]

And to add to this, I know and have watched a Ball driller that works at an alley's pro shop that doesn't drill accordingt to a bowlers PAP. I think Idle knows who I mean. I have watched him take a vibe and recently as tonight , a Psycho out of the box and drill it for a customer only with span measurements. That's scary. I think I will talk to the owner and see if he would like a sample of how things are done right.

I think I know who you are talking about, JH?

[Young300]

In my eyes, it's imperative that a ball driller takes the measurements off of the PAP. I know that most of the ball drillers around my area don't use the PAP measurements. I know that they mostly drill for just league bowlers, and most league bowlers around here just want the biggest hooking ball and drilling, which mainly means going off of a stacked leverage drill. I have been on the fence about talking to my boss about possibly working with him in the pro-shop. I know that he will get more customers when it comes to having a good drill job on the bowling ball, and I know that I can do that, not to mention, that by word of mouth, things will get better as they know that he takes the time to work with them and make sure that everything is correct.

[BubbaRay]

I think I know who you are talking about, JH?

That's exactly who I am talking about. I cringe every time I see him layout and drill a ball. :eek: :eek:

[idlehourlegend]

That's exactly who I am talking about. I cringe every time I see him layout and drill a ball. :eek: :eek:

Yea I thought the exact same thing but uhhh have you ever seen the guys up the OTHER one layout a ball?

Seen one layed out a couple weeks ago, straight line drawn with the wax pencil from the pin to the cg to the mb, 2 finger holes drawn and a thumb hole and that was it. Had me scratching my head for 25 minutes.

[BubbaRay]

Makes you wonder doesn't it.

[idlehourlegend]

Makes you wonder doesn't it.

Yea it really does and people wonder why half the stuff from these places doesn't work like it's supposed to, just glad we have someone like Tim by us so we can have all of our stuff done the right way instead of having to settle for those places.

[bar5003]

Hi All,

First, thanks to bubba for re-posting this for me...i have been very busy lately and havent had time to put it up.

Now onto the whole video thing....i tell people, use my videos as a guide, not as the gospel. What i try to do in my videos is two things

1. Show you the basic ball motion I see out of the ball.

2. Compare either different layouts with the same ball, or two different balls to show you how those balls compared for me.

One of the reasons my videos have taken off like they have is i have more of a middle of the road style. Anyone from a stroker to a cranker can take a look at my video and get an IDEA of what a ball COULD do for them.

Now will you see the same thing? Maybe, maybe not. There are SO many variables, a few being surface being bowled on (There is a huge difference between Pro-Anvil Lane and The HPL's I bowl on) Volume of the pattern, length of the pattern, season of the year, are the planets alligned :D etc...this doesnt include the differences from video to video, like was the pair im bowling on the first one oiled, was it double stripped, is the machine functioning properly, the list goes on and on....there are so many variables in ball reviewing the only thing someone like myself or even BTM and BJ can do is try and control those variances as much as possible.

Hope this helps guys! If you have any questions feel free to ask me here or email me at britton@videoballreviews.com

Britton