Cell Pearl Drilling Question

[Daorge]

Hey Guys,
Just got my Cell Pearl drilled up and used it for the first time today. It has good carry and the length I like, however it seems to rev up pretty slow compared to most of my Hammer line, just wondering if people that know more about drilling can give some feedback / opinions. My driller is on Roto's staff and suggested me to try the CP, So I went with it, he said it should be fairly smooth but give the length I want with a hard flip.

He said without a weighthole its border line in spec, I told him after league tonight that it revs up much slower than my other equipment, or I should say slower than I like for my game, and he suggested either taking the cover to 2000 sanded or put a weight hole in it "wide and shallow dead straight out" were his exact words, I typically don't like to use weight holes unless I have to as I haven't really like the reaction from the ones I've had previously (yes i know it depends on placement and size / depth) but any suggestions on the drilling or ways to get this ball to rev up faster would be great.

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[Lonewolf300800]

it's just my opinion, but for me putting the pin below the fingers helps the ball rev up faster or pick up its roll sooner but still has a good backend reaction. your pin is quite a distance above your fingers which will make it go very long.

[Daorge]

Thought so as well, typically I put the pin right above the bridge, he put it further up for more length, and it definately has length, just revs much slower / later than I'm use to, Will a weight hole help or should I just go for a redrill?

[Lonewolf300800]

i'm not sure what effect a weight hole would have if you're wanting it to rev up and get into it's roll sooner. i'd ask your driller about that. but in my opinion the best bet would be to redrill with the pin below the fingers, basically just move everything straight up from where it's at.

[TenPinSniper]

Everything about that layout screams get down the lane, to me. How is your other stuff drilled?

The goodthing is surface adjustments and weights hole should cost little or nothing.

Do you know your PAP, Rev Rate and Ball Speed? (Approx. is fine)

[Daorge]

I don't know my PAP, but rev rate is around 350 and speed is about 15mph

[bluerrpilot]

Its not a terribly fast revving core to begin with. And you have a high rg layout on it. I wouldnt mess with it. If it does want you intended and carrys like you want, it will have a spot in the bag. Dont spend money redrilling to rev up quicker. Because then you wont get the length and backend pop that you wanted from the start.

[Daorge]

Thanks blue, whats your take on adding a weight hole where the driller stated? What would be the effects of a wide and shallow hole straight out? I'm not familiar with how this would effect the ball.

[bluerrpilot]

Thanks blue, whats your take on adding a weight hole where the driller stated? What would be the effects of a wide and shallow hole straight out? I'm not familiar with how this would effect the ball.

If its on your pap, the hole will lower the diff and create less flare. hard to tell, but I wouldnt think there is enough side weight to warrant an x-hole.

The easiest thing to do to get it to rev up a bit more is reduce some of the friction. Take the surface up higher and repolish it. OOB is 1500 and lightly polished.

Again, this ball has a higher rg than most Hammer equipment and a fat pig of a core. So it will not rev up as easy as the other stuff. And you have a high rg layout forcing it to lop down the lane a bit more. You will need to pick you poison. Do you want long and strong or do you want it to rev up.

[Daorge]

Do you want long and strong or do you want it to rev up.

Perhaps a happy medium between both, ill try surface adjustments and see if it helps before we attempt the weight hole

[bluerrpilot]

Perhaps a happy medium between both

Then the next question would be, then why did you get that ball and pick that layout.

You wouldnt buy a plastic ball expecting to loft the gutter and back. :)

[Daorge]

I got the ball on his suggestions, and I let him lay it out, I just said I wanted it longer with a hard flip, however I think its either too long to my liking or im just use to equipment that revs up faster

[bluerrpilot]

Fair enough. Just make sure you exhaust other options before spending to plug and redrill it.

[idlehourlegend]

I got the ball on his suggestions, and I let him lay it out, I just said I wanted it longer with a hard flip, however I think its either too long to my liking or im just use to equipment that revs up faster

How many games you have on the ball?

[Daorge]

About 5 right now, I know you said give it a few games before giving it overall judgement, but figured id check with others on how it was drilled

[idlehourlegend]

About 5 right now, I know you said give it a few games before giving it overall judgement, but figured id check with others on how it was drilled

It might be drilled a little longer than it should be with that ball, it will give you length just pin over, doesnt have to be that high, thats a lot of length for a pearl. BUT, I had mine drilled pin 12 oclock over the fingers about 1/2" above them and MB in the strong position 1/4 inch left of the thumb (very strong backend), when I first got it I had to loft the gutter cap to keep it on the left side, but after about 10-15 games the ball tamed down and turned out to be exactly what I wanted it to be, allows me to move in on the oil and not have a problem with the ball getting around the corner on carrydown, have been on some messy lanes that I usually struggle on a couple weeks ago and this ball shined.

[bluerrpilot]

It might be drilled a little longer than it should be with that ball, it will give you length just pin over, doesnt have to be that high.


Idle, the pin height has nothing to do with length. The drilling angle and pin to pap distance are not determined by how high above the fingers the pin sits.

[idlehourlegend]

Idle, the pin height has nothing to do with length. The drilling angle and pin to pap distance are not determined by how high above the fingers the pin sits.

I know that, never said anywhere in there that it did, just was giving him a general idea of what it looked like in comparison. Just if he has a normal PAP, that high over the fingers should be 5-6 inches Pin to PAP, which would mean lots of length obviously and would wind up with a pretty big pin buffer. I dont know his PAP but just saying the info off of a normal one.

[bluerrpilot]

I know that, never said anywhere in there that it did, .


Ok, just clarifying. Most still consider pin height as an indication of length.

[idlehourlegend]

Ok, just clarifying. Most still consider pin height as an indication of length.

Sometimes it does but depends on the persons PAP like you said, on a normal PAP it does, something around 5 inches, but on anything off of that it could change. The pin over the fingers = length is basically how all beginners are taught when trying to figure out what a ball does without knowing about PAP etc. was how I learned in the beginning until I learned PAP distances etc.

[Young300]

I have a similar layout on my Kinetic Energy and the ball revs quick when it hits friction, yet it is controllable on the backend.

[bluerrpilot]

Makes sense, the Kinetic energy is a lower rg and much faster reving core