x-out drilling

[VmsTopGun]

how would you layout a ball that looks like these two???

[BubbaRay]

VMS I just did an X Out layout and drill for a local Pro on a Black Widow Sting. The pin / Cg / and HMB were like this when recieved.

Pin and Mas Bias were 4 inches right of the Cg



O = Pin




@ = Cg




HMB



What I did is do a VAL layut. I put his Pin 1 inch off his VAL which put the Cg in his grip center. This now put the Mas Bias 1 inch right of his thumb. It worked out great. Alot of X Ouyt layouts with this kind of Pin , Cg, and Mas Bias placement from OOB requires a VAL drill lyout.

Lay yours out this way and see if it comes out for what you want.

[bluerrpilot]

Your drawings are upside down

You have to understand why those are X-out's. ALLOT of balls are marked X-outs because of an issue with the label and nothing wrong with the pin or MB placement. I have a couple of full swing xouts at the shop that have to C300 logo for the MB upside down. I also have a couple of jigsaws and stings that have the entire hammer and ball logo shifted 90 deg from where they should be. In your examples, if you take the logo markings out of the equation. The pin-cg-mb markings/alignment is not that bad.

Bottom line is to disregard the logo. Put the pin and MB where ever needed to achieve the desired ball motion and put a hole where ever needed to make it legal.

[TenPinSniper]

Are we suppose to just rotate these 180 degrees?

If so Jigsaw one looks great and can't see how this would create any issue for a right hander. I see a great ball for Weak Pin Layout with the MB close to the VAL or a Strong Pin and MB in a flip position.

Like Blue stated either of these ought to be fine they may need to have weight holes.

[VmsTopGun]

Thanks Guys, we'll give it a whirl when things calm down....