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Old 02-26-2009, 09:38 PM
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I'm a new bowler with a 165 average.

currently use a black widow pearl.

I plan on buying the new hot sauce pearl.

with the drilling layouts do i want low track medium track or high track?

I use the strong layout.

which track would give me a better advantage. I also cup the ball.

more or less asking which track gives the best advantage.

steve
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:20 PM
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I'm a new bowler with a 165 average.

currently use a black widow pearl.

I plan on buying the new hot sauce pearl.

with the drilling layouts do i want low track medium track or high track?

I use the strong layout.

which track would give me a better advantage. I also cup the ball.

more or less asking which track gives the best advantage.

steve
well steve, this is also a question I asked not too long ago. To be honest, you dont choose your track, the track chooses you. The track means where your oil track is on the ball. It determines your PAP which then affects how it is drilled and the way it will react.

By the way, Welcome to the Boards. They are full of wonderful information. Bubba Ray is the moderator, so what he says goes as for behavior. Many smart and helpful people on these boards and also many many years of experience. i hope my explanation of a track helped. If you have any questions, no question is a dumb question and everyone will be happy to help. Just remember everyone is human on here like you and they can have bad days too.

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Old 02-27-2009, 12:15 AM
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Welcome to the boards.

Walkin is right you don't choose your normal track, if just happens. It's dicated by the release, swing, tilt and rotation you apply to the ball.

So to determine your track (low,meduim or high) you need to determine your PAP (Positive Axis Point). Then you drill the ball off this point.

The PAP is the first ring of oil closet to your fingers, generally speaking. This point is on the opposite side of the ball, if you put a piece of tape on this point the ball will rotate on it for the first 15' or so of the lane before the ball starts it flares.

Here is something I posted a while back, maybe it will clear up some of this for you.

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Here is the link to Brunsnick's Video
http://www.brunsnick.com/positive_axis_point.html
In this video he uses a prosect tool to find the PAP.

Here are FOUR methods to finding your PAP. They all work.
1. Armadillo Tool
2. ProSect, explained above in Video
3. Ball Spinner Method, Bubba explained above.
4. Tape on the PAP and roll the ball method.

General Info:
Your PAP is the axis point that you ball will rotate on, before it starts to transition to it's PSA (Preferred Spin Axis) or the Hook Phase of the roll.

Any time you change your release, it will effect your PAP.

Tips on find your PAP:
So when you are finding your PAP roll few ball down the lane with your Spare Ball or Lowest Flaring Bowling Ball. Once you feel you have loosened up, wipe the ball after each shot down the lane. Once you feel you have made you typical "A" game release down the lane, this first flare ring needs to be traced, to find the location of your PAP.

BTW, this "Typical A Games" release will be rolled down the middle of the lane with your normal strike shot release, since thats generally where the most oil is on the lanes.

The Armadillo comes AMF designed by Mo Pinel.

If your track is near your thumb you will have an up coordinate from your grip center line. If you track near your fingers you have an inverted track, which will also be indicated by a down coordinate from grip center. Some people are flush on their grip center line.

Low track Players generally have a over less than 4 1/2".
High Track Players generally have a over greater than 5 1/4".
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Old 02-27-2009, 12:48 AM
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which is more benificial, being closer or further way from the finger and thumb holes?

as i know you can change your grip/release to get a different track.

so which would be est for more strikes?
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:41 AM
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As long as you are consistent, it doesn't really matter.
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Old 02-27-2009, 05:43 AM
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Having a ball drilled to a your normal and hopefully most comfortable release is gonna be the most benefitical thing you could do.

Just make sure you can keep a good strong release (fingers below the equator) and hand behind the ball.
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Old 02-27-2009, 05:59 AM
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Smooth, let me welcome you too the Hammer Message board. I agree with the others here. What ever ball you choose your track will be the same. You should never try and change your release to change your track. Use your normal release. The ball will react the same for a high track/med track/low track player if they are drilled according to the layout you want. You could change your axis tilt on the ball when it is called for depending on conditions and reaction of the ball. Keep your same release style.
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Old 02-27-2009, 07:34 AM
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Working the outside of the ball, because I'm no pro. Praying for a HAMBONE.
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Old 02-27-2009, 07:40 AM
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hambone is a (new term ?? ) for a 4 bagger.
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:25 AM
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a 4-bagger (4 in a row), My teammate doesn't like the term, so I use it as much as possible.
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