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Old 01-14-2008, 03:06 AM
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How many of you Hammerheads enlist the services of a coach? I mean a real coach, not your buddy who tells you to change balls during league.

I get one coaching session a week. Usually about 15-20 minutes of discussion and me working on one thing or another for about an hour or so.

If you get coaching what are you working on?

Me, I'm always working on my pushaway among other things. I feel that a good shot or bad shot is determined as soon as the ball starts moving.

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Old 01-14-2008, 05:23 AM
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When I run into a real problem so that I am strugling for 3-4 weeks I turn to a a fellow Pro, Joe Hutchinson to take a look . he can usually spot real quick what is eratic in my game . Then I'm good to go.
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:07 AM
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How many of you Hammerheads enlist the services of a coach? I mean a real coach, not your buddy who tells you to change balls during league.

I get one coaching session a week. Usually about 15-20 minutes of discussion and me working on one thing or another for about an hour or so.

If you get coaching what are you working on?

Me, I'm always working on my pushaway among other things. I feel that a good shot or bad shot is determined as soon as the ball starts moving.

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Old 01-14-2008, 10:15 AM
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I started last January working with a coach and we have lessons every other week unless one of us is out of town. He has been rated as one of the top 100 USBC coaches for the last 3 years now.

I had developed a lot of bad habits with my release/follow-through that we have mostly corrected but aren't quite there yet.

My average has increased over 30 pins since I started working with him so far and is still climbing.

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Old 01-14-2008, 12:58 PM
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I am in touch with at least 2 or 3 coaches a year and my coach is always handy for me. I am going to see Pete Webers coach (Rich Weber - His Brother) as soon as I can get a Friday off ! Missed the last chance to go. I was using a full wrist device for almost 30 years. This year (exactly 2 months ago) I took it off. Now I have to learn a lot of things over again, but I refuse to quit now. I am 47 but I am not going to stop learning. You will never realize how lazy you get with a brace until you take it off and really try to get better
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:04 PM
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For the average bowler, ~90% percent of their problems start with the first (or second in a 5) step. It's amazing...
So most peoples problems are timing issues?
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:41 PM
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So most peoples problems are timing issues?
There are a wide variety of things that can go wrong. For example, the pushaway step is one of the first things a coach will look at. This "simple" step has a great affect on the physical game. Generally speaking, the feet follow the ball.

1. Direction (side to side)
Pushing the ball out in the wrong direction (not towards the target) can pull the body offline with the target. This will alter the bowler's swing path and cause shots to be pulled inside or pushed outside of the desired target. This can also pull the release point away from the ankle area, causing the bowler to lose leverage, ball speed and revs. This can also affect balance at the line.

2. Length (front to back)
Pushing the ball too far or not far enough will alway affect the physical game. First off, this can affect timing, ball speed and the backswing (It can also be used to fix timing problems) This can also affect body posture and balance at the line. Again, the feet and body follow the ball.

There are other items but these are the most common that I can think of.
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Old 01-14-2008, 05:46 PM
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There are a wide variety of things that can go wrong. For example, the pushaway step is one of the first things a coach will look at. This "simple" step has a great affect on the physical game. Generally speaking, the feet follow the ball.

1. Direction (side to side)
Pushing the ball out in the wrong direction (not towards the target) can pull the body offline with the target. This will alter the bowler's swing path and cause shots to be pulled inside or pushed outside of the desired target. This can also pull the release point away from the ankle area, causing the bowler to lose leverage, ball speed and revs. This can also affect balance at the line.

2. Length (front to back)
Pushing the ball too far or not far enough will alway affect the physical game. First off, this can affect timing, ball speed and the backswing (It can also be used to fix timing problems) This can also affect body posture and balance at the line. Again, the feet and body follow the ball.

There are other items but these are the most common that I can think of.
On point with that reply. Over extended pushaway forces the shoulder to pull the ball into the swing vs allowing gravity to take the ball back.

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Old 01-14-2008, 06:21 PM
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kind of off the subject here guys, sorry

i live in TN myself.......wondered where bouts in nashville are you mike?

where do you bowl?




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Old 01-14-2008, 06:34 PM
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I have never had coaching before, but would love to have one. One problem is that the coach I know can't teach worth a darn. There are a couple kids that have been bowling worse since I saw this guy start to coach them a couple months ago. He makes them wear a weird back brace somtimes, and has a bunch of these gadgets along with a little tv and training videos. I really don't like this guy and the way he coaches.
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