Strong ball, weak drill; Weak ball, strong drill

[grayfin68]

Can the bowling ball guru's step up and discuss the advantages/disadvantages of taking a weak ball and drilling it strong, and vice versa?

I can tell you that I have a weak ball (Dead Flush) drilled strong and I am absolutely enjoying that set up. I can use it on medium and dry lanes. It works well when I throw it hard or easy and is among the easiest balls to control that I've owned. Please don't give me a hard time about it not being a Hammer. The thread is more about the layouts than anything.

Thanks and I look forward to learning something.

[grayfin68]

Wow guys; I'm surprised nobody replied to this thread. I would think some of the more experienced guys like BubbaRay or Slap would have chimed in on this by now with some helpful information.

[Thepainscoming]

I think that the purpose for drilling a weak ball strong is that it'll will get down the lane pretty easy while giving a stronger reaction. It will have a clean reaction up front and save all the energy for the backend. Drilling a strong ball weak could be good for a down and in shot because most stronger balls are a little earlier so it wouldn't jump off the friction but wouldn't be too strong to play that far outside.

[bluerrpilot]

First, the Dead Flush is an awesome ball. You cannot argue with a core that’s been around for so long either.

A lot of people will say that the cover is responsible for 70% or better of a balls reaction. So if you take a strong covered ball, drill it tame or for control, your letting the cover do all the work. It makes for a very, very predictable ball. It’s similar for weak balls. Most weak stuff tends to be symmetric, which is very controllable by nature. Now drill it strong and you have a predictable roll in which the cover wont let it over-react.

[grayfin68]

Originally Posted by bluerrpilot

First, the Dead Flush is an awesome ball. You cannot argue with a core that’s been around for so long either.

A lot of people will say that the cover is responsible for 70% or better of a balls reaction. So if you take a strong covered ball, drill it tame or for control, your letting the cover do all the work. It makes for a very, very predictable ball. It’s similar for weak balls. Most weak stuff tends to be symmetric, which is very controllable by nature. Now drill it strong and you have a predictable roll in which the cover wont let it over-react.

Yeah, I've been really impressed with the Dead Flush so far and the Resurgence is getting rave reviews around my lanes. So, I'm thinking about someday picking one up.

I guess the purpose for both cases is for control. The thing I like most about the Dead Flush is how controllable it is.

Last night, after league, I got to bowl on a fresh pattern that the lane manager put out which was basically a THS with more volume and less of a ratio. My BWB was killer on that pattern and much more controllable than on the standard THS. I was crushing the pocket. A group of us had four lanes with that pattern.

After the second game, I wanted to get a good comparison btw the BWB and the Dead Flush. There is a significant difference in reaction which is great because once the shot breaks down the Dead Flush just picks up the slack when my stronger stuff starts getting too jumpy on me. I even threw my Toxic for the last game and I'd say it's midway btw the BWB and Dead Flush. I played four games and averaged 208 which is pretty good considering I threw a gutter ball on hambone and a gutter ball on a spare in two of the games. My high was 232 and my low was 196. That was fun.

We also had two guys throw 300 on the same pair at the same time on the other 2 lanes next to mine.

[BubbaRay]

Sorry I haven't replied sooner on this I was out practicing on the US Open pattern.

Ok to the point at hand. You can drill a high Performance ball and a weaker cover ball to behave differently based on how you want them to react, like hooking more or less, or going longer or shorter down the lane. Alot of the Hammer line Balls are High Performance balls but for instance you cand drill a Black Widow Solid to react very strong and drill it differently to have it react more of a smooth arc. And you can drill a Cherry Vibe to be strong on the back end or drill it weak to play a much straighter line to the pocket. The purpose of this boils down to style and lane conditions .

Tony Reyes, at a Western Regional PBA Tournament once, had two BWS's on the pair and used both to shoot a 299. One was drilled strong to hook a bit more, and the other one was drilled weak to hook less.

[bluerrpilot]

Originally Posted by grayfin68

Yeah, I've been really impressed with the Dead Flush so far and the Resurgence is getting rave reviews around my lanes. So, I'm thinking about someday picking one up.

The Resurgence needs plenty of oil. It rolls very early and very strong. The Momentum is pretty much a pearlized Resurgence and its really nice too. Long and strong. I'd even say its stronger than the BWP

[grayfin68]

Originally Posted by bluerrpilot

The Resurgence needs plenty of oil. It rolls very early and very strong. The Momentum is pretty much a pearlized Resurgence and its really nice too. Long and strong. I'd even say its stronger than the BWP

Yeah, the Resurgence is supposed to be a good heavy oil ball but I see some very good bowlers using it on fresh THS conditions and having great success with it. I haven't heard as much rave about the Momentum but I haven't heard anything bad either.

I'm guessing that Ebonite is loving all of this talk about two of their brands on this thread, lol.

[Rowdy]

Originally Posted by grayfin68

Wow guys; I'm surprised nobody replied to this thread. I would think some of the more experienced guys like BubbaRay or Slap would have chimed in on this by now with some helpful information.

I would have but I don't drill strong balls weak or weak balls strong. I only drill strong balls strong. And then I redrill some of them stronger. Less confusion that way.

[blistershurt]

One good reason to drill a strong ball weak would be if it took better surface changes than a weak ball, its more tweakable to what you want to throw on.

If you really want a very usable ball, drilling a weak ball strong will usually give you a good look for most of the house conditions you'd run into on a regular basis.

Basically, if you want options, go with a strong ball drilled weak that takes good surface adjustments, if you want a specific condition covered, go with a weak ball drilled strong.